wolverine issue 30 something... it's in volume 2 of essential wolverine.
the first one was new x men, don't remember the ish...
and for one: clone isn't entirely accurate.. it was a PART of the venom symbiote that got seperated from the whole, and was nurtured long enough to survive without brock, or the rest of itself... it was also about 30 times more deadly than the brock-venom could ever be, as it no longer needed a host to remain in action.. or mobile... all it needed hosts for was food... it also figured out how to become immune to fire, and certain types of plasma as well as having low level telepathy.. don't try to brush it off with "that was a venom clone" like that makes it less of a feat than it is... because the fact of the matter is that standing up to that thing is even more impressive than toe to toeing it with classic venom... you know.. the venom that wolverine beat twice anywas..
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those aren't low showings those are consistent showings.. how about this.. you find me 10 feats that put venom far and above anything that wolverine's done and I'll conceed that wolvie won't even touch him....
but.. i gaurentee you that you can't... they haven't been able to do that with spidey and he's had about 15000 more comics than venom's ever even appeared in..
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no venom was owning the symbiosis that occured once the clone attached itself to a girl with an inhibitor collar put on her to keep it under control. she was in control not the symbiote... it lost a portion of it's impressive and imposing stature once she took control of it...
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Err, technically, Wolverine isn't moving faster than the "bullet" (aka, dart). He's moving his hand up and down very fast JUST before the gun is fired, the "bullet" just happened to be caught in the path of his claws.
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rocket propelled darts can move as fast if not faster than bullets,
wolverine's also snagged rocket proppelled darts out of the air while fighting warhawk....
he's also blocked the path of a bullet from exiting the barrel of a gun after the trigger was pulled...
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Actually gyrojet guns have proven to be ineffectual at short distance and very inaccurate at long distances. They can't accelerate fast enough to hurt you at close range, and they can't hit a building from long distance. Also they don't move faster than bullets.
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By rules of this board I have to take each character at their best. The only way Wolverine can even hurt Venom is because of 6 reasons. Claws 1-6 laced with Adamantium. Sabretooth isn't gonna do shit, considering he doesn't have reason's 1-6 that Wolverine has.
Wolverine does not equal Sabretooth.
Also, if you wanna go on past comic book victories, Venom has beaten Superman, Juggernaut, Human Torch, etc. If you wanna take the worst into effect as well, Punisher had Sabretooth down for the count after five bullets. Four from an assault rife, one from a .45.
and on one last note, I'm aware that Sabretooth's claws are also laced with Adamantium, but they aren't nearly as sharp as Wolverine's, nor would they cut as deep. Also, Venom is much quicker than Sabretooth is, and on his best he's dodging gunfire and laughing at the same time, and taking hits from Class 100 bricks and flat out having fun with it.
Venom vs Wolverine Venom 10/10.
There were 3 fights mentioned, I only happened to read 2 of them.
First one was tooth and claws. Wolverine was cutting Venom with no effect. Venom was punching Wolverine, and that is as we all know pretty much useless against Logan. Venom never tried anything really usefull against Logan, like to suffocate him and that would've worked.
Second fight was with the clone (and original venom is superior to him) wasn't even trying to fight Wolverine, he wanted to bond with him, Logan was cutting him for several pages and clone didn't payed much attention to this.
As for another fight, you guys really think that Venom being koed because he fell from the waterfall makes sense? He was pushed from 50 storied building before.
Same against Sabertooth.
As for two combined... Not sure.
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