Confirmed: It wasn't Terrorist that destroyed WTC nor is it Bush!

Originally posted by lord xyz
In the film it says that Lee Harvey Oswald was an FBI agent framed by the CIA because it's the CIA/Watergate burgalers who did it. They framed Oswald because Oswald was working with Hoover to shut down the CIA for the bay of pigs and disobeying Kennedy.

Hmm, I hadn't seen the movie in a few years. I don't see that as possible though. Lee Harvey Oswald was a total weirdo, he was obsessed with attention and loved Communism, I believe he either killed Kennedy to be in the history books or he was on a mission for the communists with another shooter or two.

I don't see what Sweersa is whining about. Thousands more died in WW2, yet hundreds of spoof movies are made about it. get over yourself. The 9/11 attacks are just as subject to being made fun of as any disaster.

Originally posted by sweersa
Hmm, I hadn't seen the movie in a few years. I don't see that as possible though. Lee Harvey Oswald was a total weirdo, he was obsessed with attention and loved Communism, I believe he either killed Kennedy to be in the history books or he was on a mission for the communists with another shooter or two.

yes the CIA killed kennedy as well as being behind the world trade center dissaster.as a matter of fact,after the assassination took place in 63,so many people started having doubts about the warren commissions fairy tale version that oswald was the lone assassin over the years that due to that fact,there was ANOTHER Investigation into it in 1978 called the house select committe on assassinations.even THEY concluded that there was at least a second rifleman involved.But there investigation was as big of a joke as well.
According to one member who was on that panel,he was disgusted with that investigation because anytime someone brought forth information of government involvement,they completely ignored it.they had no interest in learning the truth.the HSCA in their conclusion concluded that there indeed was a second shooter but they could not locate the shooter,they concluded that it was the result of a probable conspiracy and that it was carried about by the mob.They never even went after the mob though or had any serious notions of it because they knew that if they went after the mob and prosecuted them,the mod would come forward and say-hey wait a minute,yes we were involved but we had help.the people that helped us out to pull it all off was the CIA.so anything that linked toward government involvement,they ignored.matter of fact as the HSCA investigation was winding down,two CIA men came forward and confessed to it saying-we did it,where do you want to go with this? and of course they chose to ignore them and not pursue it because again it pointed towards government

all you got to do is go down to washington and go through the archives there and you'll find that information for yourself.its all there.

you dont think they would do that because thats what you like millions have been CONDITIONED to believe by the mainstream press that our government and president would never do something so evil.however thats been proven to be false.Not only has documented evidence over the years surfaced that Lyndon johnson and dick nixon were involved in kennedys assassination and the CIA pulled it off,but there has been documented evidence that has surfaced that our government has long been engaged in these kinds of autrocitys. thats what the government for many years tried to get people to do,look the other way in the other directions,thinking was it the mob? was it the russians? was it castro? ect ect.
For a while I considered the mob theory and the russian theory but then they fall apart because the ONLY people who had the power to pull it off were people in high positions of power within the government.Could the russians have controlled the american media? could they have made the warren commission members conclude oswald did it? could they have set up oswald like they did without OUR intelligence finding out? could the russians have controlled the media like they did around the entire country? could the russians have changed the parade route? could the russians get the military intelligence community to stand down that day and relax security measures? could the russians have made the secret service remove their protection that day? normal routine security measures taken for a presidents visit to a city that day were not carried out by the military day or secret service that day because they said they had orders from high up to stand down that day.the secret service procedures that day were not followed or carried out,the car making that unusual turn to slow down was a direct violation of secret service standards.the protection detail that day was a joke.never before or since then according to people who served on the secret service back then and people who have been interviewed over the years,there were MANY violations that day such as windows being left open,an umbrella going up,no secret servicemen on the bumpers of the limo,the motorcycle patrolmen being told to drive BEHIND the limo instead of beside it.when clinton came here to town once,the secret service were checking windows,buildings,sewer systems,EVERYTHING days in advance before the event and thats how they ALWAYS operated as well nov 22nd 1963 as well.

after considering all those questions and interviewing witnesses over the years who for many years kept their mouths shut about what they really saw because many people that testified before the warren commission died in mysterious ways,they are now coming forward talking about how how FBI agents threatened them with arrest and gave them death threats if they did not tell the official version.who can blame them? they wisely knew that if they could kill the president,then what chance in the world did THEY have to live? none.NOW Though they are coming forward and telling the truth about how they saw a second gunmen on the picket fence and were given death threats back then to keep quiet.NOW they have no reason to hol back because they are getting so old and know they wont be around much longer to live anyways,they got nothing to fear NOW.

why am I here? because people need to know the truth of what went on that day when all this happened.thats WHY I am here.I wonder why YOUR here if your not willing to accept it that your school sysytem and the media could have possibly have lied to you that day about what happened in history class on that day in nov 22nd 1963.or not willing to take an objective look at 9-11 either? 🙄 the reason there is a controversy over kennedy and 9-11 is because the fatcs of the case dont fit the explanation given by the government.its not a theory that kennedy wanted to pull out of vietnam and that the CIA wanted the war to continue either,its a known fact.Kennedy had drafted plans to pull out completely by 1965.in document # 263 he drew up those plans.Johnson however signed document # 273 after becoming president which REVERSED kennedys policy to withdraw out of vietnam by 1965.the CIA knew that if they could get kennedy in there,Johnson could be bought off to give them their continued war they wanted.
again stop listening to the school system and the government controlled media and look at ALTERNATIVE NEWS SOURCES. 🙄

if you did any investigation into 9-11,you would also know that Bush and cheney profited immensely from 9-11.just do a google search on cheney,bush and profiting from 9-11 and you will find all kinds of information pop up.I wish it was a story but this is real stuff dude.except most people dont want to do any research on it because they are like you and have this naive belief that our government could never do something so barbaric and evil to its own people.when actually they have for years.Besides kennedy and 9-11,FDR was an evil corrupt bastard as well and not hardly the great president people have been led to believe he was either.He like Bush did with 9-11,had foreknowledge that america would be attacked by the japenese and did nothing to try and stop it.simply because he wanted it to happen.The real reason the japense attacked us was because FDR provoked them into it by cutting off their oil supply.The US fleet reported seeing aircraft stray off course and asked if any action should be taken against them but were told by their commanding superiours to stand down and ignore it.This has been all over the history channel and documented in the very well researched book DAY OF DECIET.where it documents all of that. well Bush did the same thing FDR did,our country hasnt changed any since then.You dude have been misled by the school sysytems and the controlled media.

Dont be a coward like XYZ who is afraid of the truth that bombs went off in the towers and ignores overwhelming evidence that proves there were and wont read books that I refer him to that document clinton is as evil as bush is,if you want to know the truth,then read these books,they are a good start to the fairy tales you have been told in school about kennedy,9-11 and pearl harbour. for kennedy,read the book- "CROSSFIRE,the plot that killed kennedy." It has tremoundous amounts of information and documented proof that the CIA was behind it all.

for pearl harbour,again read the book DAY OF DECEIT.It documents and proves it all that FDR provoked the japense into attack to get us into a war with germany the american public wanted to stay out of.They wanted to stay out of it and FDR could not get the people to get behind him in that war he wanted,which CHURCH HILL was trying to get him to join forces with him in his war against germany,so he used pearl harbour to get people to back him in his war against germany and join churchhill in the british,its all documented in the book and again,on the history channel as well. for 9-11,the book that proves and documents it all that 9-11 was an inside job carried out by the government is -well theres many great ones ou there that prove it,but the best to to start off with is "DEBUNKING 9-11 DEBUNKING.AN ANSWER TO POPULAR MECHANICS AND OTHER DEFENDERS OF THE OFFICIAL CONSPIRACY THEORY." just read those ALTERNATIVE sources and you will then understand that you have been badly misinformed by the media and school sysytems.Hey they brainwashed me for years with their lies about kennedy,so theres no shame in ackowledging it,they've done so with many countless numbers of people.
oh and osama initially claimed he DIDNT do it,it wasnt until a couple months later that they discovered a video thats obviously a fake osama bin laden saying he did it.

Originally posted by sweersa
Hmm, I hadn't seen the movie in a few years. I don't see that as possible though. Lee Harvey Oswald was a total weirdo, he was obsessed with attention and loved Communism, I believe he either killed Kennedy to be in the history books or he was on a mission for the communists with another shooter or two.

actually thanks to the movie JFK,the ARRB in 1997-the assassinations records review board that clinton appointed which had the CIA AND FBI declassify a lot of their documents on,many which were blacked out by the way,and had a panel appointed to look at and many independent researchers got to look at as well,one of them they came across,proved what many independent investigaters had theorized for many years because they didnt have any solid evidence to go by that oswald was a CIA agent.but thanks to the documents that were released,investigaters came across one that they carelessly did not black out which proved that the birth Lee Harvey Oswald WAS indeed a CIA agent.that was something his mother for years suspected was that her son was a CIA agent.the real LHO many people think is still alive because the one that was shot down in the police department,had none of the identificatins the birth lee harvey oswald did.It was more than likely a russian double agent that was shot down.Because for one thing,the birth Lee harvey oswald was listed in the marines as being 5'11" the one that was gunned down in the police department basement was 5'8".mazing how he magically shrunk.Plus margerite oswald herself-oswalds mom,said when oslwad came back,that was not her son,that was not what he looked like.another thing that the oswald that was gunned down in the basement could not have been him was that oswald had a visable scar behind his ear from an operation performed on him as a little child,the oswald gunned down in the basement,had no scar behind his ear.but yes they did find out that LHO was indeed a CIA agent.you'll never hear that reported in the mainstream press of course though.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No. Evidence suggest that Oswald was a facsist. Evidence also shows that he was infact a double agent working for the FBI. All that is stated in the documentary. I suggest you see it again.

I never said he was a Facsist, I said he was a Communist.

I have seen an actual documentary on the History channel about the JFK thing, and yes they also cover the controversies. Its more of a valid source than a movie.

And Mr. Parker, please divide your paragraphs, I really didn't bother to read a majority of your content material becuase they were so darn long, and un-divided, but I got your general idea. I respect the effort and time you took to type your long posts so I will get to reading them all eventually, fully.

I really think a lot of people like to make or start controversial media elements and talk about them, becuase of attention and money. (Michael Moore anyone?)

So a majority of the crap theories I blow off, like the US planning 9/11, NASA stageing the landing on the moon, all sorts of BS thats just cracy to say.

As for JFK, evidence of all sorts of theories exists, its impossible to say what really happened, some say it was the CIA, FBI, the Communists, (I think this may be it) the Mafia, and Oswald just by himself. Obviously Oswald had something to do with it. (I believe he was working with the commies OR was just with another pro-commie group.)

No one really knows, if we did, we wouldn't be arguing with it.

Japan was an Axis power in WWII, so we would have obviously cut off oil connections with the enemy.

Also, the destruction of the twin towers really caused the US economy to take a hit, a Pesident couldn't do such a thing, also, Osama and his buddies claimed they did it, and they still make videos about it.

Originally posted by sweersa
I never said he was a Facsist, I said he was a Communist.

I have seen an actual documentary on the History channel about the JFK thing, and yes they also cover the controversies. Its more of a valid source than a movie.

And Mr. Parker, please divide your paragraphs, I really didn't bother to read a majority of your content material becuase they were so darn long, and un-divided, but I got your general idea. I respect the effort and time you took to type your long posts so I will get to reading them all eventually, fully.

I really think a lot of people like to make or start controversial media elements and talk about them, becuase of attention and money. (Michael Moore anyone?)

So a majority of the crap theories I blow off, like the US planning 9/11, NASA stageing the landing on the moon, all sorts of BS thats just cracy to say.

As for JFK, evidence of all sorts of theories exists, its impossible to say what really happened, some say it was the CIA, FBI, the Communists, (I think this may be it) the Mafia, and Oswald just by himself. Obviously Oswald had something to do with it. (I believe he was working with the commies OR was just with another pro-commie group.)

No one really knows, if we did, we wouldn't be arguing with it.

Japan was an Axis power in WWII, so we would have obviously cut off oil connections with the enemy.

Also, the destruction of the twin towers really caused the US economy to take a hit, a Pesident couldn't do such a thing, also, Osama and his buddies claimed they did it, and they still make videos about it.

Dude there was a video out that the mainstream news even showed that you obviously never saw in the following days where the REAL Bin Laden said he DIDNT do it.Not surprising that you didnt see it though because they only showed it on the daytime news once.thats how the mainstream press operates,they show the important stuff like that ONCE and never show it again.when you see important news like that,you should write down everything you remember them saying,because they will only show it once,never to be repeated again.

Fortunately there are many people out there who watch the news regularly and saw him say that,that he said he didnt do it.It wasnt till a couple months later that the troops "supposedly" came across what they say is an authentic video of bin laden saying he did it.when if you look at that video of the guy saying it,theres some dicrepancys in the tape between that guy and Bin Laden and its obvious those tapes are fake.

The guy in these videos is NOT Bin Laden.Reasons we know its NOT him in these photos of those videos is for one thing,in those videos,it shows him wearing a ring which is a well known fact that his religion forbids their people to wear jewelery.Plus the beard is much greyer than the REAL Bin Ladens of recent photos of him.Not only that,the videos show him writing right handed and its a known fact that he is left handed.

I never said a president could do it.I NEVER said that.I said that Bush profited from it all.Of course he didnt plan it,I never said that.He WAS aware though that it would happen and did nothing to try and stop them.He was warned from foreign intelligences around the world but he ignored them.He even threatened FBI agents with arrest if they tried to stop the attacks when they approached him and told him they had information there were going to be terrorists attacks against the towers.

Those FBI agents then went to new york attorney David Schippers who headed up the impeachment of clinton when he tried to impeach Clinton and schippers approached Ashcroft begging him to listen to these FBI agents and look at their files they had about it.except Ashcroft ignored him and would not look into it either.Dude Bush's father Bush SR used to be the former director of the CIA.

Are you not even aware that the CIA performs assassiantions on world leaders? or that they are involved in covert operations of smuggling drugs into the states? if your that much in the dark,you need to start going to the library and reading up on books about the CIA because many CIA officers have come forward over the years and said they got out of it because of what an out of control agency it has become over the years.even Harry Truman himself -who created the CIA,said himself,when he got out of office,it was the worst mistake he ever made creating it.He said he created a monster.He said it quite a few times actually.Because the CIA started doing activities over the years afterwards that was never his intention for it to become.It was created to gather information and report directly to the president was its sole purpose,not to participate in illegal assassinations of world leaders and other illegal covert stuff.

your wrong in your theory that he was a communist.Go back and read ALL my posts instead of parts of it and you will understand WHY the CIA killed him and the proof the CIA did it and that oswald was a CIA agent.You already confessed you didnt read all my post.because I told you its already been proven that oswald WAS indeed a CIA agent when thanks to ARRB's release of CIA documents back in 97,investigaters found documents what researchers suspected for years but could not prove till now thanks to the ARRBS rellease of the documents-which again means ASSASSINATION RECORDS REVIEW BOARD.which is that Lee harvey oswald was a CIA agent.The only news channel you will ever hear that MIGHT broadcast that though is the history channel.

You'll never hear it on the nightly news or on the front page cover of the controlled GOVERNMENT newspapers such as the los angeles times. theres many books out there that prove it was the CIA behind the whole damn thing.I just explained to you how people in high factions og of government were the only ones that could have pulled it off.Read through ALL my posts and you will see.

actually most people who know how to think for themselves and outside the box and have throughly researched it like countless numbers of people do such as myself,know it was the CIA, its just were still having this discussion because the government is still lying about the fact that they were the ones that did it.would you REALLY expect them to come forward and say-yeah we did it.We killed kennedy.uh no.

as far as that bastard FDR having foreknowledge of the attacks and letting it happen.AGAIN read the book DAY OF DECEIT.It documents and explains it all.its based on over like 30,000 recently releasec classified documents of government files the authoer went through and researched over the years.

as far as Michale Moore goes,he knows his stuff and has done an outstanding job of exposing that criminal Bush for who he really is in his movie video Farenheit 9-11.He is a true patriot that cares about his country.thanks for respecting my efforts in bringing this to you and taking the time to read through it all like you said you would.you at least seem to know how to properly debate unlike that child LORD XYZ does who insults people when he cant counter their points and gets proven wrong constantly by people that bombs were set off in the towers.thanks for not stooping to HIS childish level.

btw,as far as conspiracys go,the only ones I discuss with people on where it was an inside job by the government are 9-11,the clinton scandals,and the kennedy assassination because I have done countless hours of research on those topics and with 9-11 and kennedy ESPECIALLY,those are world wide known facts that the whole damn thing was pulled of by the government which are so easy to prove.some people though,it doesnt matter what you show them,they are so much in denial and afraid that our own government could do such a horrible thing to their own people,that you could show them a tape of bush and cheney in the white house talking saying-Yeah were finally going to get our little war started now when the CIA takes down those towers tomorrow.HEE HEE HEE HEE.

you could show them a tape of that happening and they will go and say-ah thats no proof,thats no evidence because again,their too much in deinal. anyways,as i was saying,maybe the NASA moon landing wasnt a hoax,that it really DID happen.Well I have my doubts because of how the government lies about everything else and a few things I have heard about it,or with area 51,I have my suspecions that the government is doing alien cover ups in that base but as with the nasa moon landing,you will never hear me tell you its not B.S because I havent done much research into it and theres no real hard evidence that proves those theorys I have suspecions about.However with kennedy and 9-11,I have done enough research on those two topics because they are extremely important and the world deserves to know the truth about them.that I have no doubts whatsoever that they were inside jobs by the CIA and nobody will ever convince me othersise because again,the evidence is just too overwhelming that proves it.sadly though,numbers of people still live in denial and ignore the evidence though.they dont want to hear it.ESPECIALLY with 9-11 because its so recent.I have been finding out that many people these days WILL accept it that the government killed kennedy because that was so long ago,9-11 though is so recent though that its too depressing for them to acknowledge their own govwernment did such a horrible thing,so they ignore facts and live in denial on the issue sadly.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
Dude there was a video out that the mainstream news even showed that you obviously never saw in the following days where the REAL Bin Laden said he DIDNT do it.Not surprising that you didnt see it though because they only showed it on the daytime news once.thats how the mainstream press operates,they show the important stuff like that ONCE and never show it again.when you see important news like that,you should write down everything you remember them saying,because they will only show it once,never to be repeated again.

Fortunately there are many people out there who watch the news regularly and saw him say that,that he said he didnt do it.It wasnt till a couple months later that the troops "supposedly" came across what they say is an authentic video of bin laden saying he did it.when if you look at that video of the guy saying it,theres some dicrepancys in the tape between that guy and Bin Laden and its obvious those tapes are fake.

The guy in these videos is NOT Bin Laden.Reasons we know its NOT him in these photos of those videos is for one thing,in those videos,it shows him wearing a ring which is a well known fact that his religion forbids their people to wear jewelery.Plus the beard is much greyer than the REAL Bin Ladens of recent photos of him.Not only that,the videos show him writing right handed and its a known fact that he is left handed.

I never said a president could do it.I NEVER said that.I said that Bush profited from it all.Of course he didnt plan it,I never said that.He WAS aware though that it would happen and did nothing to try and stop them.He was warned from foreign intelligences around the world but he ignored them.He even threatened FBI agents with arrest if they tried to stop the attacks when they approached him and told him they had information there were going to be terrorists attacks against the towers.

Those FBI agents then went to new york attorney David Schippers who headed up the impeachment of clinton when he tried to impeach Clinton and schippers approached Ashcroft begging him to listen to these FBI agents and look at their files they had about it.except Ashcroft ignored him and would not look into it either.Dude Bush's father Bush SR used to be the former director of the CIA.

Are you not even aware that the CIA performs assassiantions on world leaders? or that they are involved in covert operations of smuggling drugs into the states? if your that much in the dark,you need to start going to the library and reading up on books about the CIA because many CIA officers have come forward over the years and said they got out of it because of what an out of control agency it has become over the years.even Harry Truman himself -who created the CIA,said himself,when he got out of office,it was the worst mistake he ever made creating it.He said he created a monster.He said it quite a few times actually.Because the CIA started doing activities over the years afterwards that was never his intention for it to become.It was created to gather information and report directly to the president was its sole purpose,not to participate in illegal assassinations of world leaders and other illegal covert stuff.

your wrong in your theory that he was a communist.Go back and read ALL my posts instead of parts of it and you will understand WHY the CIA killed him and the proof the CIA did it and that oswald was a CIA agent.You already confessed you didnt read all my post.because I told you its already been proven that oswald WAS indeed a CIA agent when thanks to ARRB's release of CIA documents back in 97,investigaters found documents what researchers suspected for years but could not prove till now thanks to the ARRBS rellease of the documents-which again means ASSASSINATION RECORDS REVIEW BOARD.which is that Lee harvey oswald was a CIA agent.The only news channel you will ever hear that MIGHT broadcast that though is the history channel.

You'll never hear it on the nightly news or on the front page cover of the controlled GOVERNMENT newspapers such as the los angeles times. theres many books out there that prove it was the CIA behind the whole damn thing.I just explained to you how people in high factions og of government were the only ones that could have pulled it off.Read through ALL my posts and you will see.

actually most people who know how to think for themselves and outside the box and have throughly researched it like countless numbers of people do such as myself,know it was the CIA, its just were still having this discussion because the government is still lying about the fact that they were the ones that did it.would you REALLY expect them to come forward and say-yeah we did it.We killed kennedy.uh no.

as far as that bastard FDR having foreknowledge of the attacks and letting it happen.AGAIN read the book DAY OF DECEIT.It documents and explains it all.its based on over like 30,000 recently releasec classified documents of government files the authoer went through and researched over the years.

as far as Michale Moore goes,he knows his stuff and has done an outstanding job of exposing that criminal Bush for who he really is in his movie video Farenheit 9-11.He is a true patriot that cares about his country.thanks for respecting my efforts in bringing this to you and taking the time to read through it all like you said you would.you at least seem to know how to properly debate unlike that child LORD XYZ does who insults people when he cant counter their points and gets proven wrong constantly by people that bombs were set off in the towers.thanks for not stooping to HIS childish level.

btw,as far as conspiracys go,the only ones I discuss with people on where it was an inside job by the government are 9-11,the clinton scandals,and the kennedy assassination because I have done countless hours of research on those topics and with 9-11 and kennedy ESPECIALLY,those are world wide known facts that the whole damn thing was pulled of by the government which are so easy to prove.some people though,it doesnt matter what you show them,they are so much in denial and afraid that our own government could do such a horrible thing to their own people,that you could show them a tape of bush and cheney in the white house talking saying-Yeah were finally going to get our little war started now when the CIA takes down those towers tomorrow.HEE HEE HEE HEE.

you could show them a tape of that happening and they will go and say-ah thats no proof,thats no evidence because again,their too much in deinal. anyways,as i was saying,maybe the NASA moon landing wasnt a hoax,that it really DID happen.Well I have my doubts because of how the government lies about everything else and a few things I have heard about it,or with area 51,I have my suspecions that the government is doing alien cover ups in that base but as with the nasa moon landing,you will never hear me tell you its not B.S because I havent done much research into it and theres no real hard evidence that proves those theorys I have suspecions about.However with kennedy and 9-11,I have done enough research on those two topics because they are extremely important and the world deserves to know the truth about them.that I have no doubts whatsoever that they were inside jobs by the CIA and nobody will ever convince me othersise because again,the evidence is just too overwhelming that proves it.sadly though,numbers of people still live in denial and ignore the evidence though.they dont want to hear it.ESPECIALLY with 9-11 because its so recent.I have been finding out that many people these days WILL accept it that the government killed kennedy because that was so long ago,9-11 though is so recent though that its too depressing for them to acknowledge their own govwernment did such a horrible thing,so they ignore facts and live in denial on the issue sadly.

Bin Laden at first denied, but later admitted involvement in the incidents of 9/11. Its so obvious he hates America. In 1998 he signed a document stateing he wanted people to kill Americans (the fatwa). The Islamic terrorists involved in the attacks have all been identified. The United Kingdom also had an investigation of 9/11, and had the same results as the FBI. Does that mean the UK is evil also?

Anybody who can't see what Michael Moore is up to must be an idiot, its obvious why he really does what he does, he wants money. You must of missed the CSPAN video of an old friend of Mike's who revealed what he really is about, him$elf. A socialist healthcare system isn't the way to go, unless you want poor treatment and long wait times, i would rather have a job with healthcare, which isn't that hard to get. (My job offers healthcare, but I am still on my parent's plan.) Michael Moore once said that he doesn't care if people pirate his videos, that he just wants his messages spread, when his newest documentary came out, he hired a company to block p2p file sharing networks from distributing them, why? He wants his money. He doesn't care about anyone. Watch the DVD documentary "Shooting Michael Moore." You may be as surprised as I was when I viewed it.

So, according to you, the US government wanted 9/11 to happen, and so it did, then we framed a terrorist organization? And they claim they did it? And we then invade parts of the middle east to take them out, on something we according to you did in the first place?

I find your sense of humor shocking.

Its not right to take a sensitive issue such as this and spread a bunch of emo lies and anti-government propaganda. Its really pathetic.

People like you should shut up or move out of America to spew your BS somewhere else.

I am assuming you are some young kid who reads too many fake internet articles. Someone is laughing.

Originally posted by sweersa
Bin Laden at first denied, but later admitted involvement in the incidents of 9/11. Its so obvious he hates America. In 1998 he signed a document stateing he wanted people to kill Americans (the fatwa). The Islamic terrorists involved in the attacks have all been identified. The United Kingdom also had an investigation of 9/11, and had the same results as the FBI. Does that mean the UK is evil also?

Anybody who can't see what Michael Moore is up to must be an idiot, its obvious why he really does what he does, he wants money. You must of missed the CSPAN video of an old friend of Mike's who revealed what he really is about, him$elf. A socialist healthcare system isn't the way to go, unless you want poor treatment and long wait times, i would rather have a job with healthcare, which isn't that hard to get. (My job offers healthcare, but I am still on my parent's plan.) Michael Moore once said that he doesn't care if people pirate his videos, that he just wants his messages spread, when his newest documentary came out, he hired a company to block p2p file sharing networks from distributing them, why? He wants his money. He doesn't care about anyone. Watch the DVD documentary "Shooting Michael Moore." You may be as surprised as I was when I viewed it.

So, according to you, the US government wanted 9/11 to happen, and so it did, then we framed a terrorist organization? And they claim they did it? And we then invade parts of the middle east to take them out, on something we according to you did in the first place?

I find your sense of humor shocking.

Its not right to take a sensitive issue such as this and spread a bunch of emo lies and anti-government propaganda. Its really pathetic.

People like you should shut up or move out of America to spew your BS somewhere else.

I am assuming you are some young kid who reads too many fake internet articles. Someone is laughing.

"Someone is Laughing"....im that someone lol rock on. Michael Moore sucks..of course hes in it for himself. He's gotta have some money so he can buy his three meals of bigmacs every day.

Originally posted by Korosan
"Someone is Laughing"....im that someone lol rock on. Michael Moore sucks..of course hes in it for himself. He's gotta have some money so he can buy his three meals of bigmacs every day.

Hahaha

Thats pretty funny, someday Moore should make a documentary about American obesity, and use himself as a prime example.

if I am not mistaken I believe Moore is against the big oil companies, I recently found out, he has shares of some of thoes same companies! lol

I wonder..$$$

Originally posted by sweersa
Hahaha

Thats pretty funny, someday Moore should make a documentary about American obesity, and use himself as a prime example.

if I am not mistaken I believe Moore is against the big oil companies, I recently found out, he has shares of some of thoes same companies! lol

I wonder..$$$

His new name is Mr. Obese Communist Hypocrite!

Originally posted by Korosan
His new name is Mr. Obese Communist Hypocrite!

That name sure fits him.

Its pretty sad what he has done to people, he has taken advantage of, tricked, and lied to many people for the benefit of his movies.

And Mr. Parker, I have a question for you, if 9/11 was all started by the US government, what do you have to say about the pentagon attack that very same day? And what of United flight 93? So the government wanted to take out its own two most vital buildings, and failed trying to hit one? Good luck trying to explain some more BS to cover that one up. Ifs you see it totally impossible save your time and don't even bother. Time for you to get even more creative.

Originally posted by sweersa
I never said he was a Facsist, I said he was a Communist.

Originally posted by sweersa
I have seen an actual documentary on the History channel about the JFK thing, and yes they also cover the controversies. Its more of a valid source than a movie.

Originally posted by sweersa
And Mr. Parker, please divide your paragraphs, I really didn't bother to read a majority of your content material becuase they were so darn long, and un-divided, but I got your general idea. I respect the effort and time you took to type your long posts so I will get to reading them all eventually, fully.

Originally posted by sweersa
I really think a lot of people like to make or start controversial media elements and talk about them, becuase of attention and money. (Michael Moore anyone?)

Originally posted by sweersa
So a majority of the crap theories I blow off, like the US planning 9/11, NASA stageing the landing on the moon, all sorts of BS thats just cracy to say.

Originally posted by sweersa
As for JFK, evidence of all sorts of theories exists, its impossible to say what really happened, some say it was the CIA, FBI, the Communists, (I think this may be it) the Mafia, and Oswald just by himself. Obviously Oswald had something to do with it. (I believe he was working with the commies OR was just with another pro-commie group.)

Originally posted by sweersa
No one really knows, if we did, we wouldn't be arguing with it.

Originally posted by sweersa
Japan was an Axis power in WWII, so we would have obviously cut off oil connections with the enemy.

Originally posted by sweersa
Also, the destruction of the twin towers really caused the US economy to take a hit,

Originally posted by sweersa
a Pesident couldn't do such a thing,

Originally posted by sweersa
also, Osama and his buddies claimed they did it, and they still make videos about it.

Originally posted by sweersa
That name sure fits him.

Its pretty sad what he has done to people, he has taken advantage of, tricked, and lied to many people for the benefit of his movies.

And Mr. Parker, I have a question for you, if 9/11 was all started by the US government, what do you have to say about the pentagon attack that very same day? And what of United flight 93? So the government wanted to take out its own two most vital buildings, and failed trying to hit one? Good luck trying to explain some more BS to cover that one up. Ifs you see it totally impossible save your time and don't even bother. Time for you to get even more creative.

Yes, they hit it. It was strange they hit it. But it's clear that attack was staged.

1. The plane circled the pentagon. Looking for the best point to hit which was...the bit under construction with a selected number of people working there, less people were working there than any other part of the pentagon. Rumsfeld was on the opposite side (but then again, he does work there (but then again, the plane was aiming there first, then did that ridiculous 270 degree turn)).

2. Pentagon air space couldn't have been pentrated. How the hell can a terrorist go through pentagon air space for that amount of time and not be removed? The plane was still on the radar when in the space, but no action? Why not?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I've researched the pentagon strike for about 3 years now.

Yes, they hit it. It was strange they hit it. But it's clear that attack was staged.

1. The plane circled the pentagon. Looking for the best point to hit which was...the bit under construction with a selected number of people working there, less people were working there than any other part of the pentagon. Rumsfeld was on the opposite side (but then again, he does work there (but then again, the plane was aiming there first, then did that ridiculous 270 degree turn)).

2. Pentagon air space couldn't have been pentrated. How the hell can a terrorist go through pentagon air space for that amount of time and not be removed? The plane was still on the radar when in the space, but no action? Why not?

I don't think fighter jets had time to take off and find the planes so quickly or the authority to shoot down a civillian aircraft in that small amount of time, even if it looked like it was going to hit into the city, its too late even if they shoot it down, people will die.

Why would the government attack its own prime base anyways? Thats just stupid.

The people on the planes with cell phones talked about and described the muslim terrorists, were they staged also?

Your crap theory is breaking apart more and more.

Originally posted by sweersa
I don't think fighter jets had time to take off and find the planes so quickly or the authority to shoot down a civillian aircraft in that small amount of time, even if it looked like it was going to hit into the city, its too late even if they shoot it down, people will die.

Originally posted by sweersa
Why would the government attack its own prime base anyways? Thats just stupid.

Originally posted by sweersa
The people on the planes with cell phones talked about and described the muslim terrorists, were they staged also?

Originally posted by sweersa
Your crap theory is breaking apart more and more.

Its not like we have fighter jets parked everywhere. There are these places called bases where the jets are, or Navy carriers, we don't have enough to have a response time of 5 minutes in some areas I am sure.

You have to have intelligence identify/find the problem or threat, decided what to do, call in a jet to do the job, jet takes off, jet finds target, jet recieves order, jet fires....this takes time believe it or not. Its like when someone calls the cops and it takes forever for them to come even during an emergency.

And I don't think a jet will fire on a plane loaded with civillians when the military intelligence isn't sure exactly where the plane is going, and when its obvious where the plane is going (building or tower) its far too late to shoot anything down.

Originally posted by sweersa
Bin Laden at first denied, but later admitted involvement in the incidents of 9/11. Its so obvious he hates America. In 1998 he signed a document stateing he wanted people to kill Americans (the fatwa). The Islamic terrorists involved in the attacks have all been identified. The United Kingdom also had an investigation of 9/11, and had the same results as the FBI. Does that mean the UK is evil also?

Anybody who can't see what Michael Moore is up to must be an idiot, its obvious why he really does what he does, he wants money. You must of missed the CSPAN video of an old friend of Mike's who revealed what he really is about, him$elf. A socialist healthcare system isn't the way to go, unless you want poor treatment and long wait times, i would rather have a job with healthcare, which isn't that hard to get. (My job offers healthcare, but I am still on my parent's plan.) Michael Moore once said that he doesn't care if people pirate his videos, that he just wants his messages spread, when his newest documentary came out, he hired a company to block p2p file sharing networks from distributing them, why? He wants his money. He doesn't care about anyone. Watch the DVD documentary "Shooting Michael Moore." You may be as surprised as I was when I viewed it.

So, according to you, the US government wanted 9/11 to happen, and so it did, then we framed a terrorist organization? And they claim they did it? And we then invade parts of the middle east to take them out, on something we according to you did in the first place?

I find your sense of humor shocking.

Its not right to take a sensitive issue such as this and spread a bunch of emo lies and anti-government propaganda. Its really pathetic.

People like you should shut up or move out of America to spew your BS somewhere else.

I am assuming you are some young kid who reads too many fake internet articles. Someone is laughing.

It amazes me how everytime you kids who are afraid of the truth, feel the need to engage in childish insults.I was nice to you in my posts and because you cant counter my points you got to act like a stupid kid.your a pathetic frightened kid obviously like korasan and xyz.for that,since you clearly dont know how to debate in a mature way,this will be my last response to you.

No anybody who believs the crap you are spilling is an idiot.Moore has documented proof to back up everything he says in that video Farenheit 9-11. 🙄 you didnt even touch ANY of my points I made that proves those pics of Bin Laden are fake where he later says he did it when AGAIN the only time in videos that were proven to be authentic,was 5 days later saying he didnt do it.

I havent seen that video SICKO or know much about that,what I DO know is he has documented proof to back up everything he says in his video documentary Farenheit 9-11.

uh the so called islaminic terrorists that have been identified,some are alive and have said they had nothing to do with it.you need to stop letting the mainstream media brainwash you with their propaganda and lies.THEIR the ones full of B.S. kid. Its funny that you mention the united kingdom because since they are not controlled by the mainstream press here in america,they have been objective and have said the us government was behind it as well.they actually looked at the facts.

No whats NOT right is for someone like you to be afraid of the truth and not look at these alternative independent media sources I have given you to check out that proves all this to be true because your afraid of the truth.THATS not whats right.you crack me up with your logic. 😆

got news for you kid,your own government that you blindly worship and listen to has brainwashed you with their lies and propaganda so much that your so afraid of this being the truth that you wont even look at any alternative source that counters the official version obviously.pitiful,and you actually think you have logic and common sense? 😆 the B.S you blindly listen to,now THATS pathetic. 😛

No people like you who are afraid of the truth are a disgrace to america.Bush loves you for that,being brainwashed by the government like you have and afraid to look at any alternative news sources that prove the official version full of lies and B.S.You obviously have been so brainwashed by the lies and propaganda of the school sysytem and mainstream media,that if you were ever able to think for yourself,you cant now.
I told you I read books,books that PROVE it to be true.and yes,the internet is a far better source of information than the freaking mainstream media.the sooner you learn that,the better off you'll be.

Originally posted by sweersa
That name sure fits him.

Its pretty sad what he has done to people, he has taken advantage of, tricked, and lied to many people for the benefit of his movies.

And Mr. Parker, I have a question for you, if 9/11 was all started by the US government, what do you have to say about the pentagon attack that very same day? And what of United flight 93? So the government wanted to take out its own two most vital buildings, and failed trying to hit one? Good luck trying to explain some more BS to cover that one up. Ifs you see it totally impossible save your time and don't even bother. Time for you to get even more creative.

if you bothered to read these new sources I refer you to instead of blindly worshipping the governments version and letting them brainwash you with their lies and propaganda you would know the answers to this.But since unlike you,I know how to think outside the box,here is your answers.with flight 93, as far as that goes,nobody knows the answers on what really happened to that plane.there needs to be an independent investigation into it.we can only speculate on that.But we DO know the governments version is plain B.S because many pilots that have been interviewed have said it is IMPOSSIBLE to make the kind of 360 degree turn that jet pulled off by even a great pilot.in fact,the traffic controllers thought it was a military jet the way it was performing all these amazing maneuvers.

Plus the thing that is inconsistant with it being a jet,is that the pictures show the grass undamaged which SHOULD have left many huge marks in the grass because of the engines being so close to the ground.Plus none of the wreckage was found,the bodies,the engine,the seats,NONE of that was ever found.the photos clearly show none of the wreckage.the few photos they have shown,the markings of what they say is a jet,dont match the markings of an airliner jet at all.Not only that,but in one of the photoes taken at the scene,they show some people hauling away something that is covered up by a blue tarp and putting it in a van that was taken away.Why removie evidence like that from a crime scene? you clealry cant think outside the box so I hsouldnt have even bothered to ask you that.

Matter of fact,the so called plane that hit the pentagan buildings,it only hit the part of the building that had like low paying workers who were not important people,it slammed into a wall that had been newly constructed with very few people in there.Thats a pretty pathetic job by the terrorists if you ask me flying it into a WALL that was real thick killing only people that were not top brass people when they easily could have taken it instead at the top and driven it into the sections where all the top brass pentagan people are.yet somehow they manage not to do that.just a little bit too coincidental I would say. 🙄 btw,since you Ask THAT question,just read through my 9-11 thread I made.it shows what a joke of an explanation the government made.obviously you did not see that thread of mine I made about that which addresses all that.

Originally posted by sweersa
I don't think fighter jets had time to take off and find the planes so quickly or the authority to shoot down a civillian aircraft in that small amount of time, even if it looked like it was going to hit into the city, its too late even if they shoot it down, people will die.

Why would the government attack its own prime base anyways? Thats just stupid.

The people on the planes with cell phones talked about and described the muslim terrorists, were they staged also?

Your crap theory is breaking apart more and more.

thats just it,you DONT think. 🙄 your extremely clueless about the government and the miliatary obviously because they have protocals in place especially in new york and washington-they are the most heavily patrolled air spaces in the country-where they have protocals in place where jet fighters are scrambled IMMEDIATELY and can be up in the air within 10 minutes to intercept fighters and if worse comes to worse,shoot it down.we have the most advanced militay in the world that runs practice drills constantly for emergencys like this.

Your also not aware of the fact that the secreatry of transportation -his name escapes me now,but I mentioned him on my 9-11 thread,where he testified before the 9-11 commission saying that some young man came up to cheney in the bunkers as the supposed aircraft got closer and closer to the pentagan,saying to cheney when the aircraft got within 10 miles of the bunker,he said,according to this top military official next to cheney who testified to this happeneing at the 9-11 commission-"which I have seen the video of him saying this by the way,"according to him,the young man came in saying to cheney-Sir its within 10 miles,do the orders still stand? and cheney then responds saying in a real angry voice-of course the orders still stand,have you heard anything to the contrary?

what the hell were the orders he was talking about? obviously the orders werent meant to scramble the planes to intercept it since they never did. 🙄 gosh could it be the orders coming from cheney were to stand down? to NOT scramble the fighters? I wonder what laughable theory you will come up for THAT one. Or how come the FBI confiscated all cameras from the pantagan building taken that filmed the aircraft hiiting the pentagan? and confiscated cameras from a gas station across the street as well? and the ONLY thing they left us with was a pic of a big orange blurb hitting the building.your obviously in denial they covered this up.gee what could they have been covering up? gee could they have confiscated those cameras and not let the public see what hit it because it was a missle like a lot of witnesses reported seeing? I guess not,because according to you,our government could NEVER lie to us about something like this.they could NEVER do something so evil like this to us. 🙄

oh and also,they did a test with people flying at altitudes that that jet flew at and found that its impossible to make cell phone calls at that high up.gosh you think it could be lies by the government,that those cell phone calls were fake? No not according to you,cause our government would NEVER lie about something like this.