The Assassination of JFK Jr.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
I don't understand anything about the world because of my little quip there? Right-o, think what you will, but just because I don't agree with you doesn't mean I don't know as much as you. And besides, aren't liberals supposed to be accepting, kind people? Then why do they always criticize me so much when I dare to disagree with them? I wish you liberals would show as much respect to those who disagree with you as you do to other people.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I admit, I did jump to conclusions there and after re-reading my posts, I sounded a lot like the Kharma bashers. Therefore I apoligise for my disrespect, although I do not see why you don't agree with me, unless you haven't seen the documentary. Surely an open-minded person would like to see proof of something he thinks is ridiculous.

Apology accepted of course. I consider politics politics, nothing personal attached to it, unless you make an ass out of yourself and never post proof, and shit all over people who disagree with you. Then it's personal. (cough, parker, cough). I even respect Deano.. he at least does some research and can provide web sites and source material, however flimsy they may be, and he always at least attempts to stay away from personal attacks. XYZ, however, you always post facts or at least valid sources for your beliefs, and therefore I have nothing against you, but I don't necessarily agree with everything you say.

Possibly when I have the time I'll watch the documentary, but I tend to take everything I see on the internet with a grain of salt... take the Loose Change film for example. The Screw Loose Change films and websites do such a thorough and complete debunking of EVERYTHING in the video, I can't do anything but laugh at the mention of it.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Hey, kharma dog, Have you a problem or something? Just relax, boy. Nobody is insulting you, so , dont insult anybody.

First off, calling me boy is an insult, so you immediately have no respect. Second, I can only assume that you are a friend of parker from another forum and have come running to his defense. Otherwise you would have seen the many, many, many, many, many times Parker has not only chosen to try and bash me (and I do mean try) but you must have also ignored all of his ridiculously absurd posts. Once again, if you are trying to reason with someone you don't know or who you have never addressed before, you are going about it the wrong way.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Your actitude is just childish. Couldnt you post your arguments without insults and personal offenses?

My "actitude"? Once I figure out what that is I'll look into straightening it out. As for posting any point without insults, once you have read more than one or two posts of mine (out of over 5000) than maybe I'll pay attention to your criticism. Then again, I may ignore your input altogether as your first address to me leads me to believe that I have little interest in your opinion.

Originally posted by bakerboy
He insulted mr parker several times calling him stupid or things like that. Read his last posts.

And read Parker's post in turn. If you still feel that way, then I shall lump you into his pile.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I sounded a lot like the Kharma bashers.

That's funny because it works on so many levels.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
First off, calling me boy is an insult, so you immediately have no respect. Second, I can only assume that you are a friend of parker from another forum and have come running to his defense. Otherwise you would have seen the many, many, many, many, many times Parker has not only chosen to try and bash me (and I do mean try) but you must have also ignored all of his ridiculously absurd posts. Once again, if you are trying to reason with someone you don't know or who you have never addressed before, you are going about it the wrong way.

My "actitude"? Once I figure out what that is I'll look into straightening it out. As for posting any point without insults, once you have read more than one or two posts of mine (out of over 5000) than maybe I'll pay attention to your criticism. Then again, I may ignore your input altogether as your first address to me leads me to believe that I have little interest in your opinion.

And read Parker's post in turn. If you still feel that way, then I shall lump you into his pile.

That's funny because it works on so many levels.

You try to hard...

Lighten up spunky. Have some fun.

Originally posted by Scythe
You try to hard...

Lighten up spunky. Have some fun.

Two posts in this forum and both of them are comments about me. Me thinks another of Parker's friends is running to his defense.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Mr. Parker is stupid though. Besides, Parker deserves it.

yeah Im stupid because i dont have the same moronic beliefs that YOU do that a plane caused the buildings to collapse. 🙄 great logic there. 🙄 your the one who is ignorant about bill clinton being a corrupted president and has to have the same damn thing repeated to you constantly because of your memory comprehension problems.at least Grand Moff unlike you and Kharma knows how to debate without insulting.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
yeah Im stupid because i dont have the same moronic beliefs that YOU do that a plane caused the buildings to collapse. 🙄 great logic there. 🙄 your the one who is ignorant about bill clinton being a corrupted president and has to have the same damn thing repeated to you constantly because of your memory comprehension problems.at least Grand Moff unlike you and Kharma knows how to debate without insulting.

Originally posted by J-Beowulf
Apology accepted of course. I consider politics politics, nothing personal attached to it, unless you make an ass out of yourself and never post proof, and shit all over people who disagree with you. Then it's personal. (cough, parker, cough). I even respect Deano.. he at least does some research and can provide web sites and source material, however flimsy they may be, and he always at least attempts to stay away from personal attacks. XYZ, however, you always post facts or at least valid sources for your beliefs, and therefore I have nothing against you, but I don't necessarily agree with everything you say.

Possibly when I have the time I'll watch the documentary, but I tend to take everything I see on the internet with a grain of salt... take the Loose Change film for example. The Screw Loose Change films and websites do such a thorough and complete debunking of EVERYTHING in the video, I can't do anything but laugh at the mention of it.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Puh-lease. Watch Screw Loose Change if you don't believe me, or are you afraid of the truth?

For most of your post I agree, but saying the WTC is a controlled demolition? Do you ignore everything? (Don't take that last question literally, really, DON'T!) You say no other building collapses like that, can you find me a building built the same as the WTC hit by an almost duplicate plane at the same angle, height and speed, and then NOT fall down in the same manner? If you could, I will openly admit, that the official story of the plane bringing down the tower is wrong.

Controlled demolition: http://youtube.com/watch?v=o1Vu15D_0oI
Notice the bangs, squibs and destroyed structure, nothing like the twin towers. The twin towers didn't break apart, it had no squibs before falling, instead it had parts falling out etc. CD don't explode, they implode, BIG DIFFERENCE.

Stop saying the WTC was brought down by planted explosives, you couldn't be more wrong, and it's getting annoying having to repeat myself for an immature ass who only listens to those who say the government are wrong corrupt and gay.

As for what you're saying about Kharma, you really don't know him, do you?

And John Lennon may have been assassinated by the CIA, you don't know.

See thats why people like Deano,Ashtar and Winter have a problem with you and cant get along with you unlike they can with Grand.Once again you demonstrate your reading comprehension problems you have.Your putting words in my mouth that I didnt say.I mean where the F-ck did I ever say the government was evil and Gay? answer.nowhere.I said it was evil and corrupt.Once again I have proved to you that you cant read properly.

No you need to stop saying that the jets brought down the trade centers.YOU couldnt be more wrong.The reason there is a controversy over it is because thousands of demolition experts were disturbed over the official version given that the planes caused them to collapse.I have told you before the EXPERTS-thousands of them have said that the towers should not have collapsed like that in a freefall manner the same way buildings do when explosives are used. 🙄

Yeah and its annoying having to repeat myself to you on how you can order and view documentary tapes that document Clinton and Bush being buddies and how evil and corrupted he is and you just repeat the same damn thing over and over again asking me to show you where I get the information for it and you dont bother to look at those videos when I have shown you countless times WHERE you can order them.Until you view those videos,stop it with this crap that Clinton isnt as bad as Bush. 🙄

You also make false claims here saying that we are whiners who like to bad mouth the government.Know I am just concerned about the fact that america is heading down the path towards nazi germany.we are already a police state as it is and its going to get worse if people here keep living in denial about 9-11 and other conspiracys and bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich about it.Thats why winter makes his threads is to wake people up to that.its scary when the government can murder the president of the united states and pull off 9-11 and get away scott free like they do.Or that the president-Bill Clinton can have government operatives murder people he doesnt like and get away with it scott free.so stop it with this we are here to badmouth the government crap.

If most my post you agree with,then why dont you just do the mature thing and admit it that those were good points and you were wrong then? 🙄

By the way.Unlike you,when someone challenges me to look at information they have where they think they are right and can prove me wrong,"I" do look at their information.That being said,I did look at that Screw Loose change video and once again your wrong,its not the best 9-11 documentary out there,its one of the worst,its bullcrap.full of omissions and distortions of the truth.it has some truths to it,but very little of it is accurate.

and oh heres something you will find interesting.do this,this is how I found it just by accident.go to google and type in this,type-9-11 towers brought down by explosives with proof.you will see that headline there that says-Free online videos establish proof of 9-11 inside job.down below that you will see the link that says-18 minute video summarizes treason of 9-11.one of the engineerss of the tower is on that tape saying that the trade centers were designed to take the hit of a 707 jet airliner.You said it was hit by a 767 which is true but you have been misinformed that a 767 is bigger than a 707.He is on there saying that a 707 is much bigger than the 767 that hit it and that the towers could have withstood multiple 767 jets slamming into it.I will take the word of an engineer of the towers anyday of the year over your insane ramblings.that destroys that bullcrap video screw loose change in what IT has to say. 😛

not only that,but another hole in the governments theorye that a jet airliner brought it down is they did not count on one of the employees there named Wille Rodriguez a janitor who survived the collapses who heard explosions going on in the basement just seconds before hearing an explosion going on above him and 14 other witnesses saw him carrying out a survivor who was on fire and was burned from explosions going off in the basement BEFORE the Airliner hit. 😛 Willie Rodriguez is a pain in the thorn to the government because they did not count on him being there at that time when it happened or surviving to live and tell about it.ALL the major media ignored him and did not broadcast his story when he told it.the controlled press wanted nothing to do with it since it countered the governments fariy tale version. 🙄

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Two posts in this forum and both of them are comments about me. Me thinks another of Parker's friends is running to his defense.

And you can continue thinking as you please. My opinion was just stated. On Parker's and your behalf included, such banter isn't a necessity. So further continuation of the matter is just a waste of reading space.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
See thats why people like Deano,Ashtar and Winter have a problem with you and cant get along with you unlike they can with Grand.Once again you demonstrate your reading comprehension problems you have.Your putting words in my mouth that I didnt say.I mean where the F-ck did I ever say the government was evil and Gay? answer.nowhere.I said it was evil and corrupt.Once again I have proved to you that you cant read properly.

No you need to stop saying that the jets brought down the trade centers.YOU couldnt be more wrong.The reason there is a controversy over it is because thousands of demolition experts were disturbed over the official version given that the planes caused them to collapse.I have told you before the EXPERTS-thousands of them have said that the towers should not have collapsed like that in a freefall manner the same way buildings do when explosives are used. 🙄

Name three (3) scientists and experts out of those thousands, and provide a link where they say, clearly, that the buildings could not have fallen after the impacts.

And really, lose the condescending tone. It makes you look like an ass.

Well, I'm ashamed of myself for reading Parker's post, but I will say this Parker: You said that all the democrats (clinton in particular) and the republicans (bush in aprticular) are in bed with eachother, that means they are gay, yes?

Also, I'm not the one with reading comprehensions, you are. You are also horribly wrong about a lot of things. Any unbiased person here would see that.

Originally posted by Mr Parker
See thats why people like Deano,Ashtar and Winter have a problem with you and cant get along with you unlike they can with Grand.Once again you demonstrate your reading comprehension problems you have.Your putting words in my mouth that I didnt say.I mean where the F-ck did I ever say the government was evil and Gay? answer.nowhere.I said it was evil and corrupt.Once again I have proved to you that you cant read properly.

No you need to stop saying that the jets brought down the trade centers.YOU couldnt be more wrong.The reason there is a controversy over it is because thousands of demolition experts were disturbed over the official version given that the planes caused them to collapse.I have told you before the EXPERTS-thousands of them have said that the towers should not have collapsed like that in a freefall manner the same way buildings do when explosives are used. 🙄

Yeah and its annoying having to repeat myself to you on how you can order and view documentary tapes that document Clinton and Bush being buddies and how evil and corrupted he is and you just repeat the same damn thing over and over again asking me to show you where I get the information for it and you dont bother to look at those videos when I have shown you countless times WHERE you can order them.Until you view those videos,stop it with this crap that Clinton isnt as bad as Bush. 🙄

You also make false claims here saying that we are whiners who like to bad mouth the government.Know I am just concerned about the fact that america is heading down the path towards nazi germany.we are already a police state as it is and its going to get worse if people here keep living in denial about 9-11 and other conspiracys and bury their heads in the sand like an ostrich about it.Thats why winter makes his threads is to wake people up to that.its scary when the government can murder the president of the united states and pull off 9-11 and get away scott free like they do.Or that the president-Bill Clinton can have government operatives murder people he doesnt like and get away with it scott free.so stop it with this we are here to badmouth the government crap.

If most my post you agree with,then why dont you just do the mature thing and admit it that those were good points and you were wrong then? 🙄

By the way.Unlike you,when someone challenges me to look at information they have where they think they are right and can prove me wrong,"I" do look at their information.That being said,I did look at that Screw Loose change video and once again your wrong,its not the best 9-11 documentary out there,its one of the worst,its bullcrap.full of omissions and distortions of the truth.it has some truths to it,but very little of it is accurate.

and oh heres something you will find interesting.do this,this is how I found it just by accident.go to google and type in this,type-9-11 towers brought down by explosives with proof.you will see that headline there that says-Free online videos establish proof of 9-11 inside job.down below that you will see the link that says-18 minute video summarizes treason of 9-11.one of the engineerss of the tower is on that tape saying that the trade centers were designed to take the hit of a 707 jet airliner.You said it was hit by a 767 which is true but you have been misinformed that a 767 is bigger than a 707.He is on there saying that a 707 is much bigger than the 767 that hit it and that the towers could have withstood multiple 767 jets slamming into it.I will take the word of an engineer of the towers anyday of the year over your insane ramblings.that destroys that bullcrap video screw loose change in what IT has to say. 😛

not only that,but another hole in the governments theorye that a jet airliner brought it down is they did not count on one of the employees there named Wille Rodriguez a janitor who survived the collapses who heard explosions going on in the basement just seconds before hearing an explosion going on above him and 14 other witnesses saw him carrying out a survivor who was on fire and was burned from explosions going off in the basement BEFORE the Airliner hit. 😛 Willie Rodriguez is a pain in the thorn to the government because they did not count on him being there at that time when it happened or surviving to live and tell about it.ALL the major media ignored him and did not broadcast his story when he told it.the controlled press wanted nothing to do with it since it countered the governments fariy tale version. 🙄

For you to even think about commenting on other people's reading comprehension problems is disgusting. Your logic is lacked

Originally posted by Spartan005
For you to even think about commenting on other people's reading comprehension problems is disgusting. Your logic is lacked

First, the person who says that john lennon murder was a conspiracy, is an idiot without any idea about lennon.

Second, mr parker is my friend yes. And if i want to defend him, i will do it. At least, he is not insulting the others because a first provokation, he only post his personal arguments. The others are idiots because they insult only for not being agree with him.

Boy is an insult? Well, next time i will call karmha dog girl or gay. Better now?

Clinton is a killer, Bush father is a killer, Bush son is a killer. Nixon was corrputed. CIA and FBI has more murder at their back that is even funny to talk about it.

Originally posted by bakerboy
First, the person who says that john lennon murder was a conspiracy, is an idiot without any idea about lennon.

Second, mr parker is my friend yes. And if i want to defend him, i will do it. At least, he is not insulting the others because a first provokation, he only post his personal arguments. The others are idiots because they insult only for not being agree with him.

Boy is an insult? Well, next time i will call karmha dog girl or gay. Better now?

Clinton is a killer, Bush father is a killer, Bush son is a killer. Nixon was corrputed. CIA and FBI has more murder at their back that is even funny to talk about it.

I don't want a discussion about Lennon, but I bet I'd find more evidence for that conspiracy than you have on 9/11.

Mr. Parker insults people, he does it by saying we're all ignorant and blind, he constantly says well done to Deano and the others, he makes ridiculous claims and brings me and Kharmadog up in threads we didn't even post in!

Yes boy is an insult. You are demeaning him and treating him as if you are superior IE without respect. Do you think because he disagrees with Mr. Parker he is somehow immature? Logic like that is as bad as his and you should really not post in this forum. Believe me, the ones you're arguing against are not fools. They will humiliate you, as we have done with Mr. Parker, Deano, NuclearWinter and Emperor Ashtar.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You are an idiot. There's no wonder you'd be his friend.

I don't want a discussion about Lennon, but I bet I'd find more evidence for that conspiracy than you have on 9/11.

Mr. Parker insults people, he does it by saying we're all ignorant and blind, he constantly says well done to Deano and the others, he makes ridiculous claims and brings me and Kharmadog up in threads we didn't even post in!

Yes boy is an insult. You are demeaning him and treating him as if you are superior IE without respect. Do you think because he disagrees with Mr. Parker he is somehow immature? Logic like that is as bad as his and you should really not post in this forum. Believe me, the ones you're arguing against are not fools. They will humiliate you, as we have done with Mr. Parker, Deano, NuclearWinter and Emperor Ashtar.

You are the only idiot here. No wonder why do you put those stupid coments and insults the people who aerent agree with you. You are a loser and a fuking jerk.

Second , John Lennon was killer by a lunatic, a crazy guy obssesed with him. Read something about the story about mark david chapman and why he killed John. If you still thinks that it was a conspirancy, you are clearly an idiot with mental problems.

You are the one , with kharmadog who insults people all the time for not being agree with them. I have checked some posts and you and your loser friend do the same thing all the time. You and him and some others are only a band of losers, a pathetic group of little fascist who are trying to being something in a fuking forum , but at the end of the day, when the computer is off, you are still the same loser and the same mr nobody.

Boy is an insult? Curioulsy,first time hearing about it. If someone callled me boy, not problem for me. Problem for you? right, next time i call you lord gay or lord girl.

Your arguments are still garbage. If i call somebody boy is because i feell his superior? Dumb logic here. And not, mr loser, i didnt critize you or the dog for not being agree with mr parker, i critized you and him because both insults wihout any provokation, thats is the key on my arguments against you and your friend.

They will humiliate me? No problem if they have reason on it. I dont care if someone win an argument against me with logic and intelligence. But for the moment, you and your friends only has showed hostility, insults, personal offenses , arrogance and bad tastse . Those arent winning arguments.

Keep your fascist and agressive stuff? Come on, you will have me in front of you and your friends.

Our only insults are "idiot" and we have good reason to say it. [list=1]
[*]You ignore our posts
[*]You have reading comprehentions
[*]You repeat what we've already debunked
[*]You bring us up in debates as if we are special or something
[*]You can't let anything go, even something as little as being called "idiot"
[*]You think that Deano and NuclearWinter are knowledgeable (if this is an against the rules, I'm sorry)
[*]You don't see your own stupidity
[*]You use smilies and speak in way as if you're infallibly better
[*]You think we're ignorant and stupid
[*]You avoid simple questions like "Where did you get this from?" unlike Ashtar and Deano
[*]You don't visit any conspiracy debunking website
[*]You're biased
[*]You don't understand what a fact is
[*]You don't realise that the mods are on our side
[*]You don't realise I'm a conspiracy theorist, and even I'm on their side
[*]He needs you help him argue (and still loses).[/list]

I'm starting to think you are his sock, because all of your opinions are the same as his.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Our only insults are "idiot" and we have good reason to say it. [list=1]
[*]You ignore our posts
[*]You have reading comprehentions
[*]You repeat what we've already debunked
[*]You bring us up in debates as if we are special or something
[*]You can't let anything go, even something as little as being called "idiot"
[*]You think that Deano and NuclearWinter are knowledgeable (if this is an against the rules, I'm sorry)
[*]You don't see your own stupidity
[*]You use smilies and speak in way as if you're infallibly better
[*]You think we're ignorant and stupid
[*]You avoid simple questions like "Where did you get this from?" unlike Ashtar and Deano
[*]You don't visit any conspiracy debunking website
[*]You're biased
[*]You don't understand what a fact is
[*]You don't realise that the mods are on our side
[*]You don't realise I'm a conspiracy theorist, and even I'm on their side
[*]He needs you help him argue (and still loses).[/list]

I'm starting to think you are his sock, because all of your opinions are the same as his.

Are you starting to think that im his sock? Really, i dont care about it. But to clear it for you, i just do it on my own. I know mr parker and im a friend of him, sometimes im agree with him, sometimes im not. But it doesnt matter. I dont care if its mr parker, or mr jones or mr smith. The key is that you and your friends are insulting people for not being agree with you, and i just cant stand that.

Now, anwsering your points:

Not, i dont ignore your posts. I just critize it for being fascist.
Well, im not alone on this one.
Same as you and your band.
Nope, dont considered youself that special. I just critize you in the post that you are being an ass. So simple like that.
Well, im not the kind of person who is happy being insulted.
I even dont know who are them for the moment, im critizing you and kharmadog for your behaving
I thinks that its a draw.
Im not better than anybody, but you and your friend are worse than anybody. If you did understand the oppositte, its your problem.
First right point.
Nobody asked me that question for the moment.
No, not enough time to do it. Second right point.
Nope, just i hate the arrogant and stupid people like you.
Lie, i know what a fact it. When you and our little friend would put it, i will reconigze it wihout any problem at all.
Probably, that its you third right point and the thing that bothers me the most.
Probably, another right point.
I dont think so, im arguing im my own. Im losing? Im not here to just winning or lost a fuking debate. Im here to point you and your friend the dog what a pair of stupid and arrogant idiots are you.

Originally posted by bakerboy
Are you starting to think that im his sock? Really, i dont care about it. But to clear it for you, i just do it on my own. I know mr parker and im a friend of him, sometimes im agree with him, sometimes im not. But it doesnt matter. I dont care if its mr parker, or mr jones or mr smith. The key is that you and your friends are insulting people for not being agree with you, and i just cant stand that.

Now, anwsering your points:

Not, i dont ignore your posts. I just critize it for being fascist.
Well, im not alone on this one.
Same as you and your band.
Nope, dont considered youself that special. I just critize you in the post that you are being an ass. So simple like that.
Well, im not the kind of person who is happy being insulted.
I even dont know who are them for the moment, im critizing you and kharmadog for your behaving
I thinks that its a draw.
Im not better than anybody, but you and your friend are worse than anybody. If you did understand the oppositte, its your problem.
First right point.
Nobody asked me that question for the moment.
No, not enough time to do it. Second right point.
Nope, just i hate the arrogant and stupid people like you.
Lie, i know what a fact it. When you and our little friend would put it, i will reconigze it wihout any problem at all.
Probably, that its you third right point and the thing that bothers me the most.
Probably, another right point.
I dont think so, im arguing im my own. Im losing? Im not here to just winning or lost a fuking debate. Im here to point you and your friend the dog what a pair of stupid and arrogant idiots are you.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I'm refering to Mr. Parker, but some do apply to you.

Are you refering mr parker? Try with a better lie.