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Where does "The Crunch" come into the origin of the Marvel Universe?
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Galan007
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[edit] I see what you're saying now. The reason it doesn't bump into itself is that points that are part of the balloon don't act the same way as points traveling on it.
K, that was my main question, (it's still kind of sketchy though).

That theory has so many "what if's", or "maybe's" that it's ridiculous.


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K, that was my main question, (it's still kind of sketchy though).

That theory has so many "what if's", or "maybe's" that it's ridiculous.


Welcome to theortical physics. You should try reading a paragraph on StringTheory.


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Its much more complex than spherical.
I agree, but how else could you describe something eventually ending up where it started out?

This theory makes the Universe itself sound like the "Train Station" in the second Matrix movie... roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Welcome to theortical physics. You should try reading a paragraph on StringTheory.
I can't stand trying to read any sort of Theories/Theorems....... Because that's when crap like this comes up.


I'll stick with Laws/Principles....... With the occasional Hypothesis every now and then laughing out loud


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I agree, but how else could you describe something eventually ending up where it started out?


Explain? Well since the human mind quite literally cannot comprehend 4D space the balloon analogy is the only possibility.

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This theory makes the Universe itself sound like the "Train Station" in the second Matrix movie... roll eyes (sarcastic)


There are more irritating theories out there.


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There are more irritating theories out there.
The fact that the human race has only viewed an approximate 13.7 billion light-year radius around Earth, yet we're trying to comprehend an infinite Universe....... Is what makes theories this this one ridiculous IMO.


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The universe is not infinite. Otherwise it could not be expanding.


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The universe is not infinite. Otherwise it could not be expanding.
Ahhh, but it could be expanding infinitely. wink

But as it exists now, the Universe isn't infinite, if it ever stopped expanding for the rest of eternity, it still wouldn't be infinite....... But the Universe is certainly MUCH larger in comparison then what the human race has viewed of it.


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Ahhh, but it could be expanding infinitely. wink



Ths is actually one of the main theories at the moment.


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Ths is actually one of the main theories at the moment.
The Universe expanding is a scientific fact.

They just don't know how long it will continue to expand, (it could continue to expand infinitely, or it could stop expanding tomorrow).


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The Universe expanding is a scientific fact.

They just don't know how long it will continue to expand.


No one of the leading ideas is it will continue to expand indefinately till all energy becomes diffuse to the point that the universe has hied. It will rely on how much dark energy and not dark matter is out there.


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No one of the leading ideas is it will continue to expand indefinately till all energy becomes diffuse to the point that the universe has hied. It will rely on how much dark energy and not dark matter is out there.
I've also heard that if there isn't enough energy to support the Universes rate of expansion, the Universe might "fold back" on itself, in a manner of speaking.


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I've also heard that if there isn't enough energy to support the Universes rate of expansion, the Universe might "fold back" on itself, in a manner of speaking.


This is also possible except it's less likely. The "rubber band" effect tends to use a fudge factor to avoid the fact entropy may prevent a total collapse.


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This is also possible except it's less likely. The "rubber band" effect tends to use a fudge factor to avoid the fact entropy may prevent a total collapse.
Damn theories lol.


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the universe is not expanding we(all matter) are just geting smaller eek!

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the universe is not expanding we(all matter) are just geting smaller eek!
Wierd... confused


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you should never abhere to the marvel rule book, every single time they change something in a comic book you can just throw the thing away from one giant event to the next if possible.

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Wierd... confused

haha i know but its possible. and we proly could not prove it wrong.
lol the crunch is making us smaller! till everything gets so small and explodes/impoldes in a big bang event every where matter existed in the universe. thus the universe expanding in all directions infinetly every where.
me em cunfused now confused

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haha i know but its possible. and we proly could not prove it wrong.
lol the crunch is making us smaller! till everything gets so small and explodes/impoldes in a big bang event every where matter existed in the universe. thus the universe expanding in all directions infinetly every where.
me em cunfused now confused
We know the Universe is moving away from us though, and thus is expanding.

We aren't shrinking lol.


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but if all matter in the universe was getinmg smaller at the same time. would it not seem that the universe it self was geting bigger in relation to us( the matter)
infact how els could one explain everything moving further away from everything els?
like stuffing a kiddie pool full of rubber ducks then shrink all of them slowly and thay will get further away from each other
lol laughing

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