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Symmetric Chaos
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Originally posted by Soljer
Uhh...no.

There isn't.

It doesn't matter what temperature you take the human body to. Carbon doesn't just 'decide' to become water.

Absolute zero would convert it to a BoseEinsteinCondensate. Then all that has to happen is one molecues turns to water and the whole thing goes.

Since being at absolute zero would put you at quantum levels of confusion the overwhelming presence of wavefronts from water molecules in the body could influence the rest of it to colappse to water.

Heh . . . that sounded pretty good.

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Originally posted by Newjak
Except the body idn'y mostly made out of Carbon it is primarily H2O You freeze the non H2O based objects and the body and the body would break into Water

This would include the Skin, Blood, some Muscles, boned.

The other parts would basically just be left behind but the body would turn into water

Except, when iceman does this, the thirty percent of the person's body that ISN'T water isn't just left laying on the ground.

When they reform, they have that thirty percent back. They aren't just comprised SOLELY of water.

Iceman actually TURNS the other elements into water, and turns said water back into the comprising elements.

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Except, when iceman does this, the thirty percent of the person's body that ISN'T water isn't just left laying on the ground.

When they reform, they have that thirty percent back. They aren't just comprised SOLELY of water.

Iceman actually TURNS the other elements into water, and turns said water back into the comprising elements.

Actually the leftovers would be spread out among the water without a microscope you wouldn't be able to tell what is or isn't water. stick out tongue

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Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Absolute zero would convert it to a BoseEinsteinCondensate. Then all that has to happen is one molecues turns to water and the whole thing goes.

Since being at absolute zero would put you at quantum levels of confusion the overwhelming presence of wavefronts from water molecules in the body could influence the rest of it to colappse to water.

Heh . . . that sounded pretty good.

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You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

I love it.

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You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

I love it.

Actually all of that is based on real stuff. The only thing thats crap about it is the fact that I was claiming it would all work together.

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Actually the leftovers would be spread out among the water without a microscope you wouldn't be able to tell what is or isn't water.

Yes. You would. A hydrous solution comprised of water and other elements in a ratio of seventy percent to thirty percent would easily be distinguishible from pure water.

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Actually all of that is based on real stuff. The only thing thats crap about it is the fact that I was claiming it would all work together.

Quantum levels of confusion.

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Quantum levels of confusion.

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When asked to explain how to visualize the quantum atom Heisenburg said one shouldn't try.
It's been commented that if you think you understand quantum mechanics you're probably pretty stupid.
It allows for particles to appear and vanish for no major reason other than the lack of anything saying they can't.

So yeah . . . pretty fuking confusing no expression

It also makes for a great way to rationalize any crap you want a character to be able to do stick out tongue

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Yes. You would. A hydrous solution comprised of water and other elements in a ratio of seventy percent to thirty percent would easily be distinguishible from pure water.

Based only upon the ratio being purely Solid to H20 which is in fact untrue.

Their are gasses, other liquids to take into account. I mean just look at your local pond water. It contains a fairly large amount of solidified objects wink

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Based only upon the ratio being purely Solid to H20 which is in fact untrue.

Their are gasses, other liquids to take into account. I mean just look at your local pond water. It contains a fairly large amount of solidified objects

Yes. And your local pond water is CLEARLY distinguishable from pure H2O.

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Yes. And your local pond water is CLEARLY distinguishable from pure H2O.

So you actually think Iceman turns people into pure H2O?

Where is the proof

All he says is he turned them into water and based on past appearances it is more likely he just broke down a being primarily composed of water into a water form wink

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If we go by the quantum theories from Heinsburg, it obviously suggests that, by turning a single animalistic bio-organic compound into a hydrocarbon solution, we can obviously expect the neurosynaptic responses to overflow, and the ionic bonds to dissolve, resulting in a bodywide implosion due to solar flares.

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If we go by the quantum theories from Heinsburg, it obviously suggests that, by turning a single animalistic bio-organic compound into a hydrocarbon solution, we can obviously expect the neurosynaptic responses to overflow, and the ionic bonds to dissolve, resulting in a bodywide implosion due to solar flares.

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If we go by the quantum theories from Heinsburg, it obviously suggests that, by turning a single animalistic bio-organic compound into a hydrocarbon solution, we can obviously expect the neurosynaptic responses to overflow, and the ionic bonds to dissolve, resulting in a bodywide implosion due to solar flares.