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Hazsekswthurmom
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Originally posted by long pig
Superman is D.C's biggest seller and D.C's writer's favorite character, so of course he'd be shown doing obscenely stupid things and given an obscene benefits of doubt. Marvel is the same with Wolverine but no one considers all his feats as the truth because his powers don't say he can take a Nuke and in KMC, there is no PIS or fanboy writers.

The irrefutable fact is Orion is, by far, the more powerful, the better fighter and the more versitile of the two.

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Jul 1st, 2007 06:19 AM

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I mean, technically, he's even stronger than Superman....by lightyears if we go by shown/implied post/pre crisis strength feats.

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so supermans whole history doesnt count becuz hes dc main character. i think not. that makes no sense. supes would bloody him up so bad no mother box could fix him.

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so supermans whole history doesnt count becuz hes dc main character. i think not. that makes no sense. supes would bloody him up so bad no mother box could fix him.

No, when Superman does something, BEYOND his powerset, then it's bullshit, that doesn't translate, to Kmc.

Jul 1st, 2007 06:34 AM

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No, when Superman does something, BEYOND his powerset, then it's bullshit, that doesn't translate, to Kmc.

superman is one badass. he beat darkseid down and went toe to oe and blow for blow with doomsday. supes is a badass and there is no denying that.

Jul 1st, 2007 06:36 AM

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superman is one badass. he beat darkseid down and went toe to oe and blow for blow with doomsday. supes is a badass and there is no denying that.

Then he could defeat Thanos no expression

Jul 1st, 2007 06:38 AM

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Then he could defeat Thanos

why do u keep bringing up thanos
enough that isnt the thread. thanos would crush superman. superman would beat down orion.

Jul 1st, 2007 06:43 AM

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so supermans whole history doesnt count becuz hes dc main character. i think not. that makes no sense. supes would bloody him up so bad no mother box could fix him.

Most of his feats are fine, but it's when fanboy writers get a hold of him and make him out to be a god..that's when feats get dismissed.

Superman beating DS in Superman/Batman= Dismissed. Just like how Batman, in the same comic, beat Grundy & Shiva both at once by h2h fighting them is dismissed.

Superman beating anyone under high herald level power is acceptable. Beating a skyfather like DS is unacceptable.

Orion's powers boarder on the skyfather level, his blasts most definitely are skyfather level in destructive power. Do you realize Orion, after unleashing the full power of the AF, matched the power of a universe-destroying blast?

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Superman Murders Orion,don't listen to LP's rants.
Orion is second tier AF or no AF.

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What does AF stand for? Oh, shit. AllFather

Nevermind, thanks..

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Originally posted by Skeets
Superman Murders Orion,don't listen to LP's rants.
Orion is second tier AF or no AF.

You say "AF or no AF" like there ever was a time he didn't have the AF. It shows the lack of knowledge you have of the character.

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What does AF stand for? Oh, shit. AllFather

Nevermind, thanks..

AllFather wouldn't make any sense, so he must of meant astro force.

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AllFather wouldn't make any sense, so he must of meant astro force.

Aw man. I was even wrong with my assumtion sad

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Most of his feats are fine, but it's when fanboy writers get a hold of him and make him out to be a god..that's when feats get dismissed.

Superman beating DS in Superman/Batman= Dismissed. Just like how Batman, in the same comic, beat Grundy & Shiva both at once by h2h fighting them is dismissed.

Superman beating anyone under high herald level power is acceptable. Beating a skyfather like DS is unacceptable.

Orion's powers boarder on the skyfather level, his blasts most definitely are skyfather level in destructive power. Do you realize Orion, after unleashing the full power of the AF, matched the power of a universe-destroying blast?

no i say ur wrong...superman in apokoilps now beat down ds and rightfully so he was more motivated and his back was agaisnt the wall. supes with his back against the wall is capable of amazing things. ds lost to him more than once...it stands it counts.

Jul 1st, 2007 06:54 AM

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I mean, technically, he's even stronger than Superman....by lightyears if we go by shown/implied post/pre crisis strength feats.

Can you give one lifting feat to support this?

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supes for the win...still

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Superman wins IMO

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Can you give one lifting feat to support this?

im sure he cant

Jul 2nd, 2007 06:46 AM

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Can you give one lifting feat to support this?

Orion tore himself out of the Source Wall, Superman didn't?

Aside from that, they've never presented Superman as explicitly stronger/weaker than Orion.

I'd say the alien likely is, since strength is his trademark, but i doubt it's by a significant degree.

And Orion can win a majority, but in a comic likely wouldn't win a head on fight.

Aside from Darky, the NG just don't get love like that. They're better off than the Eternals over in Marvel, but still not a list.

Right now, Superman has a major push driving him(taking down Despy and BlackRock), and Orion is getting handled by Firestorm.

Just two different degrees of respect from the writers.

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Orion tore himself out of the Source Wall, Superman didn't?

Aside from that, they've never presented Superman as explicitly stronger/weaker than Orion.

I'd say the alien likely is, since strength is his trademark, but i doubt it's by a significant degree.

And Orion can win a majority, but in a comic likely wouldn't win a head on fight.

Aside from Darky, the NG just don't get love like that. They're better off than the Eternals over in Marvel, but still not a list.

Right now, Superman has a major push driving him(taking down Despy and BlackRock), and Orion is getting handled by Firestorm.

Just two different degrees of respect from the writers.

I'm actually talking about a lifting feat, since Thanos needed one in order to prove he was in Superman's range, and here, Orion is stronger even though he doesn't have any really.

It was kind of a towards one member, to answer.

Plus... that wasn't a lifting feat.

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