Well we know that Spawn is hurt by heavenly energy and I put some constraints on Spawn. At least its better than the other thread where Punisher has to fight Spawn with conventional weapons.
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Even so, i don't see Spawn losing to man-made weapons. Spawn could easly teleport behind Punisher or just walk-through the protective force field and use his chains to rip Punisher apart. And this suit is not saving Punisher from Spawn's chains. Or Spawn could just remove Punisher from that suit. Or he could just drain the power from this suit. In order for Punisher to win this he would have to find a divine weapon or find a way to blast the necroplasm out of Spawn.
mmmmmm yeah I guess so but serioulsy the other thread just sucked. I mean maybe it could be merged or some **** like that, what you're saying inst unreasonable but if anything the other thread should be closed because it sucks.
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In that case the fight might be interesting because Spawn his still learning the ropes and for the most part fighting via conventional means. Punisher's problem is going to be Spawn's healing/regeneration factor. Spawn can take and quickly recover from anything that the Punisher throws at him.
Wearing this suit how many blast of necroplasmic energy could the Punisher take?
Punisher would have to come up with a very good plan and do some research. His best bet would be to try to take the fight to the Deadzone where Spawn is pretty much powerless and on a human level.
Yeah thats what I was thinking, and that was my intent to make a more managable Spawn. I dont think his regenration would be that much of a problem heavenly energy was agony to first age spawn, it wont kill him straight away but it will HURT!
Im really not sure but at this level I think something that tough would give some resistance. I think it would be reasonable to say that it would not destroy it in one shot. I also thought that if worse comes to worse Frank could use his firearms to block the necroplasm blasts.
I think a prep Punisher could take this with his powerset, but he doesnt ahve any prep just basic knowledge. I dont think his weakness is common knowledge.
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didnt think it was worth mentioning because 1. heavenyl energy doesnt hurt Spawn any more 2. guns firing heavenly energy is silly, even for Marvel comics.
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well whether you think it sucked or not, it was there first, the only grounds for closure of that thread is it being too unbalanced, but then i'd have to close this one too...
1. I also said that its first age spawn as well, but its not that clear.
2. Wether its silly or not is irrelevant. Punisher uses guns and heavenly energy can hurt him = give punisher heavenly guns
Well if you really really wanna close it could you merge it because it seems we are actually having a decent debate in this thread.
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with prep he could take him down. i've read how punisher plans things out and he's quite the sadistic type. without it, he loses, as much as i love him..
WTF?! Spawn CAN teleport from the very beginning! And, sure, Simmons at least was as good as the Punisher, but Hell I sure he is and will be the best - 'cause he was and still is the best trained assassin AND spy US Goverment has ever known.
BTW, I really like Heavenly version of Punisher. But still it can't change the fact that Spawn beat the crap outta THE BEST SPAWN-KILLING ANGEL EVER KNOWN (exept Immaculata, of course ) just in his First Age.
Actually, does it need any more arguments?
Theres nothing to indicate that he was as good as the Punisher all we know is that he was well trained. Punisher has had well trained people for breakfast for example he compeletly pawned a shield general. Considering that a shield general has more training and expreince than Simmons we could assume that he wasnt as well trained as the Punisher.
As far as I know Simmons was an agent and did not hold a high position.
Is that the one were the only reason Spawn survived was because the angel got distracted? If so its not a good argument.
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