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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Utrigita
In a sort of way he has been retconned, We have seen Living Tribunal holding two MEGAVERSES in his hands and just as easy destroy them. I think that outclass a billion dimensions by quiet a few steps
Yes the LT has displayed more impressive feats but that is not the same thing as a retcon.
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Also the LT back then governed a Multiverse the LT today govern a Omniverse
That's because all of Marvel was a multiverse back then.
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which include the Beyonders a race that appear more Powerful then Pre-retcon Beyonder seeing what but a minute part of there power can do, and they are still below LT.
PR Beyonder was amazing. He performed many incredible feats including one of the most impressive feats in comic history- wiping all of Death from existance.
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But again the Marvel has changed
Yes it has.
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today:
(excluding TOAA) LT> All of Marvel (pre ore post)
For the most, I think this is true. I think there are anomalies like Scathan if I'm not correct? Officially the LT's only superior is TOAA so that's why I'm agreeing.
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Back then:
(No mention of TOAA) Pre-retcon Beyonder > All of marvel
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Just my openion.
Well I wasn't going to say anything about this, but the correct way to spell it is "opinion". Probably just a typo.
Aug 23rd, 2007 04:43 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Air Legend
How is it obvious hyperbole?
It could be, the room or nothing else is even getting damaged from the blast. But then again that's comics.
Aug 23rd, 2007 05:38 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Phenomenol
It could be, the room or nothing else is even getting damaged from the blast. But then again that's comics.
Because the Beyonder funneled it into another dimension (an ability he's demonstrated to have).
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Air Legend
Yes it has displayed stronger feats, but the LT has never been retconned. Therefore, PR Beyonder>PR Molecule Man> Living Tribunal.
I know LT has never been retconned. Owen Reece has. Beyonder has been retconned four times.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
Because the Beyonder funneled it into another dimension (an ability he's demonstrated to have).
Where did he say that?
I see Beyonder getting blasted and nothing in the room gets damaged.
Aug 23rd, 2007 06:05 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Phenomenol
Where did he say that?
I see Beyonder getting blasted and nothing in the room gets damaged.
It's based on what we know he can do. He's demonstrated that power before, so it's a logical assumption.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Phenomenol
Where did he say that?
I see Beyonder getting blasted and nothing in the room gets damaged.
Seeing as MM considered the Beyonder a threat to his girlfriend and such, I doubt he would wreck the planet or even the room. He can still focus the blast you know.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
It's based on what we know he can do. He's demonstrated that power before, so it's a logical assumption.
It really isn't logical because it shows Beyonder TAKING the blast not funneling it anywhere.
You can't make up your own logic for comics.
Aug 23rd, 2007 06:15 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Phenomenol
It really isn't logical because it shows Beyonder TAKING the blast not funneling it anywhere.
You can't make up your own logic for comics.
And I claimed different?
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It's logical, because he's demonstrated that power, and he was shown to be coughing from the blast, so it affected him (when he's taken such amazing hits before and not even been affected), so it's a logical assumption.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Endless Mike
It's logical, because he's demonstrated that power, and he was shown to be coughing from the blast, so it affected him (when he's taken such amazing hits before and not even been affected), so it's a logical assumption.
Not really because the comic actions and words contradict what you want to happen.
The beyonder defined the blast as being that powerful and the entire room is still intact?
That's because in comic book land these things happen.
Aug 23rd, 2007 06:36 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Utrigita
I also think in a short of way we have to do with a retcon I didn't say official retcon but never the less his powerlevels has changed.
Correct but we have a omniverse now and even back then I doubt we would have seen LT holding universes in his palm.
He wiped Death from he multiverse a cosmic Cube that contains a minute part of the true Beyonders power have destroyed and remaked the Omniverse (everything outside of time and space two as far as I know) that IMO above destroying death. But I also respect Beyonder.
Scathan bad writing IMO the handbook contradicts itself on that point.
yes a Typo (opinion)
Bad writing happens. Like it or not, Scathan the Approver was in some issues. Helping LT defeat Protege. As a Celestial fan, I liked it
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who can survive this blast?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Utrigita
He wiped Death from the multiverse a cosmic Cube that contains a minute part of the true Beyonders power have destroyed and remaked the Omniverse (everything outside of time and space too as far as I know) that IMO above destroying death. But I also respect Beyonder.
I don't think all the true beyonders combined would have the power to wipe all of death from existence. Besides even if they did, the LT wouldn't allow it.
Aug 23rd, 2007 08:04 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Air Legend
I don't think all the true beyonders combined would have the power to wipe all of death from existence. Besides even if they did, the LT wouldn't allow it.
One of Beyonder's retcon is he was made by the Beyonders allowed by LT.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by guy222
One of Beyonder's retcon is he was made by the Beyonders allowed by LT.
...and your point is?
Aug 23rd, 2007 08:19 PM
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