1. I don't see why Hal would have a good chance against DD. DD went through legions of GLs and that was before he became HP, so while Hal is certainly >>> most GLs, I don't see him faring well.
2. Surfer turning intangible won't help...seeing as DD killed a being of PURE energy. Also, about Surfer's durability...wasn't he beaten pretty badly by the Hulk in planet hulk...(maybe there was a depowering im not aware of)
3. Wolverine is on this list because he has an insane HF and with his adamantium skeleton, he may the the hardest for DD to land a mortal blow against.
A sack of potatos can break some wood. Yet the wood is harder than the sack of potatos. Also I can stab through a potato with a sharp knife much easier than a slab of wood. So whether Superman is as durable as adamantium has nothing to do with whether he can break it (And if he can then DD can). As far as I know, Superman resisted adamantium cutting beams in a crossover. It's not canon but at least we know what the writers think. Also, Ultimate Hulk ripped Ultimate Wolverine in half. It's not canon but it adds plausibility that enough strength can indeed break adamantium.
Lastly, with all good reason, I don't believe that true adamantium is much more than a few times stronger than Superman's muscles and bones (DD's claw went clean through his shoulder like liquid). So if something goes through something like liquid then it definitely can go through something a few times stronger.
True adamantium has been damaged before even though there wasn't any H/P DD level beings to even attempt to damage adamantium by physical forcely means. It has been dented a couple times and has been broken as well. Since Thor and Hulk dented it with blunt force then what if we were to double their power and provide them with a sharper edge in which to strike instead of the blunt objects they used (flat Mjlonir and fist). There's no doubt that they would be able to penetrate it then. So it is very reasonable that DD can do the same.
Writers also obviously think that Superman's durability is comparable to adamantium. That's all that matters.
DD went all the way clean through to the other side of Superman's shoulder and bone like liquid for crying out loud. And since I can pentrate liquid then I obviously can penetrate something more than 10 times stronger (such as paper). Hell, I can even penetrate something more than 1000 times stronger than liquid :wood. This logic applies to DD as well. Do you think true adamantium is more than 1000 times stronger than Superman when Thor and Hulk has dented it, when Superman resisted adamantium cutting beams, etc. There is no way in the world that anyone should think that adamantium is too much more than a few times more durable as Superman.
Surfer, Hal, or Thor. You asked who would last the longest. As the others aren't capable for long term space flight, Surfer, Hal, or Thor just flying into space as fast as they can would take the win. You didn't say they actually need to confront him. : )
Last edited by tjcoady on Nov 17th, 2007 at 04:24 AM
It is impossible to hyperbole 'dent'. Why in the hell would Thor say he dented it and he didn't?
What would be the point the writers are trying to get across here? That Thor is a liar? This makes no sense.
You need to stop treating these comics as stories that happened in real life and rather as stories that are told by the intentions of the writers.
And my bad, Hulk actually dented and cracked Ultron's armor which is made of true adamantium, not secondary.
This is most likely true. I'm not so sure about the Thor feat though.
Was it retconned recently? And was it before or after Secret Wars?
But anyway, I have no problems in saying that true adamantium is more durable than Superman's body. But no way do I think that it is a lot more durable than his body. Otherwise, writers wouldn't think that Superman can withstand adamantium cutting beams. So I think DD can penetrate Wolverine's skull, but not like liquid as he did to Superman's shoulder and bone.
On second though it could have been retconned, but know that Thor with all his might "scarcely put a dent in it," yet Thor, with not too much difficultly, damaged the secondary adamantium armor of the Ultron duplicates in a much later battle. So most likely this instance probably wasn't retconned as secondary adamantium after all. This is because the avengers probably wouldn't be making a fuss over secondary adamantium since they managed to damage it easier later. So since later Ultrons improved then it is feasible that the Ultron that Hulk cracked was made out of true adamantium too. I agree that other damages of adamantium was retconned as secondary adamantium though.
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Nov 14th, 2007 09:18 PM
at you for thinking adamantium is >>>Superman
