^ That was Sephiroth before he had gained more power, and before he had control over the negative lifestream, with the NL he is capable of transforming the entire planet into his personal vessel.
Black Materia is stated capable of destroying planets, White materia (holy) is the antithesis of the Black Materia, its even stronger its the pinnacle of power, it erases all which is bad, and can easily destroy a planet.
Last edited by Terryc250 on Feb 20th, 2008 at 06:18 AM
Although i couldn't find the direct quote from ingame that stated about the black materia here are some from sites with information on the balck materia
"Black Materia is the materia Sephiroth seeks and eventually obtains in order to call the most destructive magic spell, Meteor, a spell capable of causing destruction to an entire planet"
"The Black Materia is utilized to cast the spell Meteor, the Destructive Magic in Final Fantasy VII, capable of destroying an entire planet"
"The temple was a cetra relic and Aeris(th) the key to unlocking the secrets within it. It was here that we learned of a forbidden magic called Meteor it was capable of destroying the entire planet. "
The white materia is the antithesis and stated to be even more powerful, capable of wiping out anything it judges evil.
Let's see Sephiroth didn't want to the destroy the planet; in fact he wanted just to wound the planet. In fact it is said ingame:
Sephiroth: It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to
heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the
injury. ...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very
life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha ha ha. And at
the center of that injury, will be me. All that boundless energy will be mine.
By merging with all the energy of the Planet, I will become a new life form, a
new existence. Melding with the Planet... I will cease to exist as I am now...
Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every soul.
He never said that. What he said is that Holy could destroy everything on the planet that is harming it.
Here:
As stated above, it could destroy the Weapons, Meteor, and all the human race.
It could destroy even more than that, if it's judged necessary("All that is bad will disappear. That is all." ).
Something important to note, is that Holy could have done all that very quickly. It was traveling across continents in seconds during the end of FFVII, after all.
A guy in another forum compared Holy with the hand of God. It decides what is good and bad, wiping out everything bad.
Sephiroth was holding this force, with only his willpower/mental strength/telekinesis, while doing many other things(controling the clones, etc). And that's ****ing impressive, IMO!
Keollyn:
Read everything above. Now, can you imagine all the mental power he was using to restrain something of THAT magnitude?! And that wasn't even his limit, because he was still controling the clones, Jenova's body, etc.
Imagine if he used ALL his mental power against a single person.
When I talk about Holy's power, I want to show how mentaly powerful Sephiroth really is.
this is what we call "wanking propaganda"
by associating Holy with the hand of an omnipotent being and then stating Sephiroth can hold it back with his willpower you combine the two statements to make Seph's feat more impressive
It can be a bad comparison, but it doesn't negate Holy's power(and Sephiroth's mental power by consequence). Everything I posted is true and valid. What Sephiroth did was still impressive, with that comparison or not.
The big question is: Can Id resist the full power of Sephiroth's mind? Holy couldn't, and I think he can't either.
WISEMAN
"Zohar is Deus' core.
The slave generators and Ether... it's the source of all their energy.
After attaining its power, the freshly awakened Id intends to annihilate this world!
The contact with Zohar was meant to have been done after unifying Fei's true personality"
Yep, someone said that Id was going to destroy the world. And no, that's not "planet" world, that's "universe" world. Want proof?
HAR
Long ago, a 'modifier', or a pseudo-perpetual, infinite-energy engine was created. That engine was named 'Zohar'.
That reactor was created by an ancient people from another planet to attain what is considered to be the ultimate energy possible within this four-dimensional universe.
Eventually, those people used that same engine to create the ultimate inter-planetary invasion weapon, 'Deus'... Zohar was used as its primary source of power.
But the unexpected happened... During the connection tests of Zohar with the newly completed Deus, the engine started to examine infinite potential phenomena...
Requiring energy, the engine connected this dimension to the higher dimensional space. As a result, that reactor 'merged' or 'synchronized' with the wave existence in that higher dimension... ME.
I 'descended' from the point of contact created by the machine through the 'Path of Sephirot', or the domain you are in right now, and incarnated in the four-dimensional world.
After I 'advented' to the four-dimensional world, in order to stabilize myself here, I had to exchange, or materialize, my form and enter into the 'modifier' engine...
So that's someone, like Bugenhagen, making statements from observations. And here, Wiseman said that Id will annihilate this world. And just so no fool think world means planet (that's still far more than what Holy would have done), I got the conversion god (Har) had with Fei, and he goes from referring to the fourth dimension with the word universe, to saying world
Holy was just something Sephiroth held/contained with his mind, Sephiroth has the NL which is the power of the planet, capable of destroying the planet, or transforming it into whatever he desires
And where is it stated Id is capable of destroying a universe? Also, you dont need to give me an asshat reply like "This has been taught in school" bs, are you mad or something?
Last edited by Terryc250 on Feb 21st, 2008 at 07:50 AM
Yes, I'm furious. I'm exacting my plan to kill all human life because I don't like your text.
Wherever did you get idea is beyond me.
And where it said Id was going to destroy the universe is directly above us in that long post of mine. Try and find it (reading is also something we learned at school... some before it too)
"That engine was named 'Zohar'.
That reactor was created by an ancient people from another planet to attain what is considered to be the ultimate energy possible within this four-dimensional universe. "
So thats the only actual ingame context with the word "universe" in it, i don't see how that means id is capable of destroying a universe, please explain mr. ultimate genious
Usually when people start saying unneeded things during a debate, means they're getting offended or mad
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