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Gray Fox Vs. Master Chief
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Master Chief, with little to no trouble. His armor is stronger and shielded, and he had strength around the level of Gray Fox just from the gentic experiments, when you add in MJOLNIR GF would be curbstomped.

Fox is a bullet timer going by the games, while MC can only claim that from the novels.
I'm so sure that emptying an AR at him is going to work.

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ok lets look at what they both have and what they both are capable of.

mc: overshield, titanium armor, an arsanal of weapons (available), good aim good fighter, increadible strength, and i cant think of anything else.

gf: an exoskeletin, cybornetic implants, high frequency sword (makes it realy realy hot), is so fast he can diflect bullets with his sword, possibly even stonger than mc, can turn invisible, has a plasma canon.


ok with that what would happen is mc would know where gf is cuz of the radar but even so how do you shoot something that you can barely see and it moves that fast, then gf will come up hit his shield, then notising its strength retreats, then shoots him a couple times with his plasma canon until his shield is down then cuts his head off, but if mc had the bubble shield thing available gf would just go in and just keep hiting him while dodging all the bullets mc shoots at him untill the shield is gone and then finnish him off (also gf was almost as fast as he is in mgs before he became a cyborg)

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Why are you giving Master Chief the overshield when OP doesn't state that?

Chief sees bullets in slow motion, so I doubt he won't be able to see GF. I think it is safe to assume Chief would stop firing bullets when he realizes Fox is deflecting them. What happens if Chief has an energy sword available to him?

Its not so cyrstal clear.


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if mc can see bulets in slow motion why does he need his energy shield, i think you just misunderstood a cut scene, and even if he had the energy shield there is no way he could hit grey fox, he is just way to fast for mc, and if you think otherwise you dont know much about grey fox, and dont argue with me about that there is no way to prove it and it will just be anoying


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even if he had the energy "sword"*


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Originally posted by niduin
if mc can see bulets in slow motion why does he need his energy shield, i think you just misunderstood a cut scene, and even if he had the energy shield there is no way he could hit grey fox, he is just way to fast for mc, and if you think otherwise you dont know much about grey fox, and dont argue with me about that there is no way to prove it and it will just be anoying


Wow, you're 99999% absolutely wrong in every single way here.

The novels state that he sees bullets in slow motion,not some cutscene. He wears an energy shield because it= added protection, duh. If you have an extra defense why not use it even if you don't need it? And he fought for years without it anyway.

Grey Fox has never done anything to make himself faster then the Chief. Ever. That's just a fact.

The end.


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omg you really dont know anything about gf, first off he could deflect bullets before he was known as grey fox then he was kept druged for 2 years while they did tests on him increasing his speed and reaction time and strength, by making him a cyborg, they essentialy made the perfect soldier more perfect, there is no way in hell mc is faster than him so by saying that he has never done anything to make himself faster than mc is just stupid, first off he was probably faster to begin with and then was improved dramaticly. if mc can diflect bullets why doesnt he, i mean you all say he is as fast as gf but gf was being shot at at point blank rang with an m4 and deflecting every single bullet and it looked like he was standing still, if mc was that fast then he would never be hit by anything


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The perfect soldier that gets stalemated by Big Boss and utterly pawned by Solid Snake.

Just sayin'.

And as for Master Chief deflecting bullets...why would he dodge something that is harmless to him? Exactly.


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are you kidding its not harmless to him, if his shield goes down then he's dead, and if his shield goes down then he should start dodging, but he doesnt so that logic is gone. and as for snake and big boss, well i dont want to get into that to much but its true that both of them deffeted him, but that just because big boss was the perfect soldier and snake was his clone, but thats a different topic


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this goes to grey fox. he's too dam fast for chief


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chief sees bullets in slow mo erm
that puts him up to and probably faster than GF..


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Grey Fox has never done anything to make himself faster then the Chief. Ever. That's just a fact.
Other than actually effortlessly blocking and deflecting bullets? Something MC to my knowledge has never done?

and Gray fox held Rex at bay from crushing him did he not?

That would make him stronger than MC as well.


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If the Chief "Percieves bullets in slow motion", then why would that even matetr? He doesn't have a sword, of course he wouldn't deflect anything. ... what's he going to deflect them with? His dick? We're talking about a pale white guy with a decreased sex drive not Samuel L. mutha ****in Jackson!


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Originally posted by Final Blaxican
If the Chief "Percieves bullets in slow motion", then why would that even matetr? He doesn't have a sword, of course he wouldn't deflect anything. ... what's he going to deflect them with? His dick? We're talking about a pale white guy with a decreased sex drive not Samuel L. mutha ****in Jackson!
The slow-mo bullets thing implies to me that MC is bullety time or a little faster in terms of reaction,

GF deflects bullet after bullet from machine-guns and the like in battle...Yet still loses a fist-fight with Snake. no expression


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why does MC need to block bullets? why even compare that? He has an energy shield.

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The slow-mo bullets thing implies to me that MC is bullety time or a little faster in terms of reaction


A little faster?


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Indeed.

And why can Grwy Fox's swords even harm the Chief again? His armor can't be penetrated by bullets and wasn't even scratched after falling from the atmosphere.


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the same reson any weapon in halo can damage him, it wont in one hit but it will after a few, and his armor after the shield isnt strong enough to stop his sword, his sword is super heated so it can cut thru virtualany any metal depending on its thickness, so after the shield is gone there goes mc head or arm or whatever he wants the shield is mc only advantage to gf and it isnt unbreakable so mc would lose

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the same reson any weapon in halo can damage him


Exactly, weapons in HALO. which is years ahead of metal gear's timeline.

as final blaxicon has stated. MC survived atmospheric re-entry and hitting the earth with great force. a super heated sword hitting chief is the same as a warm butter knife hitting a brick wall.

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and his armor after the shield isnt strong enough to stop his sword


LOL NO. please.do.not.use.gameplay.as.a.argument

if the armor could survive falling from orbit then slamming into the earth. then MC can take more then any thing GF dishes out. the early prototypes had no sheilds and could survive multiple PLASMA rounds.


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Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Indeed.

And why can Grwy Fox's swords even harm the Chief again? His armor can't be penetrated by bullets and wasn't even scratched after falling from the atmosphere.
Because an Elite can physically harm him, and Raiden's much stronger than Master Chief or an Elite, and his strikes are much faster, and his sword is a much better melee weapon than any in Halo short of the Energy Sword or Gravity Hammer.


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Raiden huh?

And why are you even bringing up other non-melee weapons to compare the HF blade, rly?


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