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Original Human Torch VS. Wolverine, Beast, and Gambit
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Jim gets raped here. Gambit? Wolverine? Beast? Wolvie and Gambit could more than likely solo the fight.


explain please.


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Jim takes this easily.

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no way.big grin


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no way.big grin


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Wolverine and Beast can't do anything but try and dodge and Jim could possibly just absorb Remy's explosions if not just fry his ***.

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Wolverine is physically stronger, has a healing factor, adamantium skeleton. Any fire used at him will be healed.

Gambit would just charge the hell out of him. Don't let him grab his head and just overcharge it.

Throw in the acrobatic beast who can dodge just as good as the rest if not better with even more skills and enhanced abilities. Jim gets raped.


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Dude can fly or speedblitz. What's to stop him from reducing Wolverine to skeleton like Nitro did?

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Nothing, but what's stopping him from regenerating? Is Jim a killer? Does he even have enough speed blitz? I don't know, but has he ever tried to kill someone who isn't evil?


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gambit's going to grab jim hammond and charge him?
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he'll disenegrate first.

jim could turn wolverine into a adamantium skeleton with one blast.

how will beast get close?

he starts in flight. they can't fly. gambit's cards are the only remedy......he may be able to absorb them......if not, he's could dodge them with super-sonic speed or block them with a forcefield.or maybe he could just resist them with a fiery aura that renders artillery shells useless.


torch can concentrate his flame in all directions outward. and with a flame that killed ironman and scorched namor..........none of them would survive within his kill range.


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no. he can't.

Colossus can because he's CL100.

Beast isn't even close.


Yes. He can. Beast can lift a few tons. Wolverine is 300 lbs. It'd be like throwing a baseball.

Plus? He has done it. I have the comic right here in my hands. X-Men #1 (the revamped Uncanny X-Men, starting in 1991)., pg 44.

Therefore, I stand by one of my original theories for the X-Men winning.


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Wolverine won't just regenerate from something like that in seconds. You really can't pove anything Logan or Beast could do to Torch while flying.

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Originally posted by Metalmanx
Yes. He can. Beast can lift a few tons. Wolverine is 300 lbs. It'd be like throwing a baseball.

Plus? He has done it. I have the comic right here in my hands. X-Men #1 (the revamped Uncanny X-Men, starting in 1991)., pg 44.

Therefore, I stand by one of my original theories for the X-Men winning.
so i'll repost my original post:

so jim's fiery aura can render him invulnerable to artillery shells and he has a history of thriving in explosions..........but gambit can still take him out?

with more than a few cards, and without jim making a forcefield(why wouldn't he), yeah, i agree.

so beast is going to throw wolverine fast enough to hit torch in flight when he has outmanuevered planes and is faster than a jet? what's to stop jim from putting up a shield or smacking him back into the ground with a fire ball? he smacked namor, who can actually fly and is much more resistance/durable, into the water with a fireball:http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...aders_41_28.gif



nice little scenario.that is creative, but torch is not gonna be distracted so long that that would work.hell, can you even explain how beast jumps on him and doesn't get scroched?


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I hope you aren't saying that artillery shells or explosions are more powerful than Gambit's kinetic energy. Beast is a genius as well, he just isn't going to throw Logan aimlessly. He analyze his flight pattern and anticipate where he is going and throw there.


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i hope you're not saying that the blast force from a single kinetic card is stronger than that of typical artillery shells fired from a tank. really, i hope not.

the guy outmanuevers planes. beast is not hitting him with logan. even if it starts to look like he will. torch could make a force field, or do what he did to namor.........no doubt it will be far more effective in stopping wolverine.


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is beast throwing logan or gambit throwing cards faster than ironcross' beams?

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/...aders_37_15.jpg


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oh, and btw, ironcross is extremely formiddable. he gave namor a bit of trouble......and a good hook.


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Jim gets raped so hard it's ridiculous.


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Jim gets raped so hard it's ridiculous.
again, explain


how? how does he have no chance of winning this encounter? how does he get "raped"? what? cause you've heard of them and not him, right? laughing


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again, explain


how? how does he have no chance of winning this encounter? how does he get "raped"?
Because Wolverine on his own can stand against him. Adding Beast and Gambit + prep makes this thread redundant.

Do I really have to explain how one gets raped? erm

In Jim's case, it has to do with his colon, and Wolverine's dewey.


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Because Wolverine on his own can stand against him. Adding Beast and Gambit + prep makes this thread redundant.

Do I really have to explain how one gets raped? erm

In Jim's case, it has to do with the colon, and Wolverine's dewey.
that's ridiculous. one concentrated blast from jim could incinerate gambit and beast and turn wolverine into a skeleton. one.

he can fly. who's gonna get him in the air?

he's absorbed the strength of and thrived in explosions before.not to mention he has a fire aura that renders artillery useless. who's to say gambit's cards can even hurt him?


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Does he really have no qualms with killing heroes?


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