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Is atheism a sin?
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Shakyamunison
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Originally posted by Deja~vu
If something forces you to love or else, then it isn't love. It's manipulation.


thumb up and what is manipulation? A type of power.


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If something forces you to love or else, then it isn't love. It's manipulation.


Who is forcing you?


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Who is forcing you?


The fear of hell. stick out tongue


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The fear of hell. stick out tongue


Your not being forced??


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Your not being forced??


I'm not? If you said to me to do something or you will attack me. Is that forcing me? According to the law it is.


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I'm not? If you said to me to do something or you will attack me. Is that forcing me? According to the law it is.


Look, do you love God?

No.

Therefore noone is forcing youl.


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Look, do you love God?

No.

Therefore noone is forcing youl.


You are right, no one is forcing me. The reason for that is because there is no hell or god as described in the bible. However, every day, in the most insidious ways, I am forced by this Christian indoctrinated society I live in.


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...and I would not worship you. wink


Not even out of fear?


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Not even out of fear?


No. no expression


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No. no expression


Then your not being forced.


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Then your not being forced.


Did you not read this?

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Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are right, no one is forcing me. The reason for that is because there is no hell or god as described in the bible. However, every day, in the most insidious ways, I am forced by this Christian indoctrinated society I live in.


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Did you not read this?


So...your not being forced...so you take back what you originally said...noone is forcing you to love God.


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So...your not being forced...so you take back what you originally said...noone is forcing you to love God.


That wasn't the point. The point was worship.

My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.


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That wasn't the point. The point was worship.

My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.


Evidence?


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That wasn't the point. The point was worship.

My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.


thumb up


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My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.


strange, fundamentalist christians would say the opposite...

just sayin, you know smile


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strange, fundamentalist christians would say the opposite...

just sayin, you know smile


I can't argue with that. big grin


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So...your not being forced...so you take back what you originally said...noone is forcing you to love God.
It is being forced by default. "You won't love me, then I'll destroy you."


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It is being forced by default. "You won't love me, then I'll destroy you."


Yet, you don't love him...

If you were being forced, you would.


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^no, people can resist being forced, but at a price. tell me that YOU beleive that people who dont love god will get off scott free in the afterlife then. {obviously you dont}. in the end its just fear, only, sum people have realised that the fear is just made up and is based on nuthing real and have gone beyond it. still doesnt excuse the behaviour of the hypothetical being{god} in question, as long as we are talking ethics.

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