Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Deja~vu
If something forces you to love or else, then it isn't love. It's manipulation.
and what is manipulation? A type of power.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:06 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: USA
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Deja~vu
If something forces you to love or else, then it isn't love. It's manipulation.
Who is forcing you?
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:06 PM
Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Who is forcing you?
The fear of hell.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:07 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: USA
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The fear of hell.
Your not being forced??
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:09 PM
Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Your not being forced??
I'm not? If you said to me to do something or you will attack me. Is that forcing me? According to the law it is.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:16 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: USA
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I'm not? If you said to me to do something or you will attack me. Is that forcing me? According to the law it is.
Look, do you love God?
No.
Therefore noone is forcing youl.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:17 PM
Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Look, do you love God?
No.
Therefore noone is forcing youl.
You are right, no one is forcing me. The reason for that is because there is no hell or god as described in the bible. However, every day, in the most insidious ways, I am forced by this Christian indoctrinated society I live in.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:23 PM
Symmetric Chaos
Fractal King
Gender: Male Location: Ko-ro-ba
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
...and I would not worship you.
Not even out of fear?
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:40 PM
Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Not even out of fear?
No.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:45 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: USA
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No.
Then your not being forced.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:48 PM
Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
Then your not being forced.
Did you not read this?
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You are right, no one is forcing me. The reason for that is because there is no hell or god as described in the bible. However, every day, in the most insidious ways, I am forced by this Christian indoctrinated society I live in.
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Oct 14th, 2008 09:53 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: USA
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Did you not read this?
So...your not being forced...so you take back what you originally said...noone is forcing you to love God.
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Oct 14th, 2008 10:09 PM
Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
So...your not being forced...so you take back what you originally said...noone is forcing you to love God.
That wasn't the point. The point was worship.
My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.
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Oct 14th, 2008 10:18 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: USA
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That wasn't the point. The point was worship.
My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.
Evidence?
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Oct 14th, 2008 10:27 PM
Admiral Akbar
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: UnrealUniverse
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
That wasn't the point. The point was worship.
My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.
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Oct 14th, 2008 10:30 PM
tsilamini
Junior Member
Gender: Unspecified Location:
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Shakyamunison
My society tries to force me, and other people to conform to Christian ideas. Unfortunately, it works on some people.
strange, fundamentalist christians would say the opposite...
just sayin, you know
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Oct 14th, 2008 10:32 PM
Shakyamunison
Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Gender: Male Location: Southern Oregon,
Looking at you.
quote: (post ) Originally posted by inimalist
strange, fundamentalist christians would say the opposite...
just sayin, you know
I can't argue with that.
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Oct 14th, 2008 10:34 PM
Deja~vu
Dreamer
Gender: Female Location: Michigan
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
So...your not being forced...so you take back what you originally said...noone is forcing you to love God.
It is being forced by default. "You won't love me, then I'll destroy you."
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Oct 15th, 2008 07:08 PM
Grand-Moff-Gav
Senior Member
Gender: Male Location: USA
quote: (post ) Originally posted by Deja~vu
It is being forced by default. "You won't love me, then I'll destroy you."
Yet, you don't love him...
If you were being forced, you would.
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Oct 15th, 2008 07:43 PM
leonheartmm
Senior Member
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^no, people can resist being forced, but at a price. tell me that YOU beleive that people who dont love god will get off scott free in the afterlife then. {obviously you dont}. in the end its just fear, only, sum people have realised that the fear is just made up and is based on nuthing real and have gone beyond it. still doesnt excuse the behaviour of the hypothetical being{god} in question, as long as we are talking ethics.
Oct 15th, 2008 07:46 PM
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