Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
SSj4 Vegeta about = Ssj4 GokuSSj4 Goku >> SS3 Goku (duh)
SSj3 Goku >= Kid Buu (Goku said he could beat Kid Buu)
Kid Buu >> Fat Buu
Fat Buu >>> Perfect Cell
Perfect Cell > 5 near dead sayains w/some pis (there was a little)
According to the Daizenshuu he fought ssj2 Gohan in movie 10. Or so I hear. Though Gohan was probably about as strong as Perfect Cell those seven years later but weaker than Super Perfect Cell. Cause a few months of training made him strong enough to match Dabura who is supposedly Super Perfect Cell's equal.
Though half of that is just speculation. *shrugs*
Originally posted by Zalindrana
Gohan as ssj2 had a hard time with Broly. He hit him right in the face and Broly just smiled big and grabbed him.But SSJ4 would def win. I would even go as far as to say ssj3 would win too.
to all of you who say vegeta would lose you guys are full of sh!t. Majin vegeta ssj2 would rape broly like he was nothing. he would be nothing but trash to the majin prince. and goku is a queer he was weaker then vegeta and always has been. the only thing that gave goku the edge over vegeta was spirit realm kai training. its practically cheating or taking steroids. give vegeta the same training and goku and his son would be nothing to him. everyone who truely is a dbz fan knows that akira toreyama and toei hated vegeta, he was ment to die but his fans wanted him back, to be honest he is the only reason dbz got good ratings. every episode without him got very poor ratings. so suck it goku fans suck it deep and dry b!tches
Originally posted by Ridley_Primethats a filler episode everyone knows they dont count. fact vegeta's final flash would of pwned cell why the hell do you think he got scared and moved. the final flash had way more then enough to turn him into nothing but dust. dont use filler episodes as evidence those are just for slowing down the anime so the manga can catch up
And yet, a Cell Jr. cancelled it out with relative ease.
Originally posted by kageamg
thats a filler episode everyone knows they dont count. fact vegeta's final flash would of pwned cell why the hell do you think he got scared and moved. the final flash had way more then enough to turn him into nothing but dust. dont use filler episodes as evidence those are just for slowing down the anime so the manga can catch up
Even Goku when hyperbolically trained could only destroy half of Cell with his fully powered Kamehameha + Instant Transmission. Regardless of what I mentioned earlier being a filler, there was nothing Vegeta had or could do at the time that would completely annihilate Gero's ultimate android.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Cell may have been surprised by Final Flash at first, but he didn't move. If he had, the earth would've blown up. The attack has more than enough power to destroy the planet, and Cell deflected it, having just an arm and wing blown off in the process.Even Goku when hyperbolically trained could only destroy half of Cell with his fully powered Kamehameha + Instant Transmission. Regardless of what I mentioned earlier being a filler, there was nothing Vegeta had or could do at the time that would completely annihilate Gero's ultimate android.
lmao, you really have no idea what your talking about. Cell moved. when vegeta fired the final flash, cell got scared shitless. you remember the fear in his eyes when he said WHATS THIS?!? how about when vegeta said, i actually hit you. he moved at the last second the part of him that Was hit was completely destroyed. so if he would of been hit by the full blast he would be dead, and the final flash was NOT aimed at the planet. cell did not have the power to deflect the final flash. so stop sticking up for goku. he sucks end of story