dd wasn't slowing down due to power loss like superman, he was just hit with a shock wave that he couldn't withstand (punch collision). herc would live through a similar experience leaving dd inert, but the odds of that reoccurring are small.
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hmm. i think i HAVE seen that posted before. i guess it just doesn't make much sense to me. i mean . . . what's he holding? the earth? the sky? the UNIVERSE?? define "firmament".
who is telling that story, btw?
i still think the feature story was meant to be apocryphal, but either way, doesn't much matter. depending on how you are willing to define 'firmament', that scan (if it was meant to be a "true" depiction of said feat) could prove he is leagues stronger than ANYONE. his battle feats do not come close to supporting that level of strength, however. hercules would be decimated by the gang of jla'ers that dd obliterated. his speed would overwhelm herc, his healing would be too much. we will never see dd performing 'strength feats of that nature, so comparing them on THAT basis makes no sense. in sheer strength, herc might be a match, but everything else is heavily on dd's side imo.
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Well, Herc says sky at one point. At other points in the same issue, he refers to it as Heaven. And two issues later, he also calls it Heaven. Which is consistant with the Greek myth. So, I'd imagine that's "Heaven," basically.
No one's telling it. Its a flashback.
Feats show pretty conclusively that Herc is stronger than DOS DD. And has far superior fighting skill. But I agree, speed and durability go to DD, and DD takes the majority.
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sweet. i know i seem to be pooh-poohing the scan, but herc is hardly what i'd call a . . . reliable narrator. see the 'lifting manhattan island story' for just one example. he tends to indulge in hyperbole once in a while. i'd love to see a comic book retelling of the myths. guess that's the only thing that would really solidify it in my eyes as truly canon.
[quoteFeats show pretty conclusively that Herc is stronger than DOS DD. And has far superior fighting skill. But I agree, speed and durability go to DD, and DD takes the majority. [/QUOTE]
on the fact that we agree. i just think it's unfair to compare strength feats in an effort to determine who is stronger. dd really HAS no strength feats, so most popular top tier strength guys could win and could be said to be stronger based only on an examination of strength feats.
meh. we agree on the big picture. details only muddle things anyway.
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yeah, i thought so too. that's gilgamesh--or at least that was one of his names . . . not sure if that has been retconned more recently though. it was mentioned in a handbook entry at one point.
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on the fact that we agree. i just think it's unfair to compare strength feats in an effort to determine who is stronger. dd really HAS no strength feats, so most popular top tier strength guys could win and could be said to be stronger based only on an examination of strength feats.
