Mormon Propaganda And Editing Monopoly On Wikipedia

Originally posted by Digi
Well then that's not a critique of labels, just a critique of stupid people. 😉

But agreed in full, though I don't think it knocks my earlier argument much. I just remember making a thread in the music forum once where I invented a label in order to try to describe the style of music I enjoyed, in hopes that others would know of such music and we could all learn of new bands and such. Instead I was just roundly insulted and mocked for coming up with a new "useless" label. It seemed counter-productive, to say the least.

touche, however, wouldn't your argument be something like "genres could be useful, though people will mess them up", like, most Utopian ideas, lol.

I don't know though. It may just be stupid people, but genres are totally personal constructs, so their existence is through the collective agreement of stupid people. You cannot separate the one from the other, as "genres" cannot exist outside of human evaluations. LOL, take that post-modernism!

Originally posted by inimalist
touche, however, wouldn't your argument be something like "genres could be useful, though people will mess them up", like, most Utopian ideas, lol.

I don't know though. It may just be stupid people, but genres are totally personal constructs, so their existence is through the collective agreement of stupid people. You cannot separate the one from the other, as "genres" cannot exist outside of human evaluations. LOL, take that post-modernism!

**** that.

😎

Originally posted by inimalist
touche, however, wouldn't your argument be something like "genres could be useful, though people will mess them up", like, most Utopian ideas, lol.

I don't know though. It may just be stupid people, but genres are totally personal constructs, so their existence is through the collective agreement of stupid people. You cannot separate the one from the other, as "genres" cannot exist outside of human evaluations. LOL, take that post-modernism!

But language is "construct of collective agreement" to begin with and we all seem to like that. Generas are extremely useful for purposes of discussion, but only if they enter the public consciousness.

I suppose I could co-sign Sym. But inamilist got my point the first time, as I did his. I just didn't feel like splitting philosophical hairs on the point.

Is that a real movie?

I hope so....

It is real:
http://www.mormonboy.com/confessions.shtml

Steven Fales could have been the poster child for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon Church): Eagle Scout, international missionary, BYU graduate, married in the Salt Lake Temple, and father of a beautiful boy and girl. In his autobiographical one-man play, Fales tells the captivating story of his failed attempt to overcome his "same-sex attraction" through "reparative therapy," which resulted in his divorce and excommunication from the Mormon Church. After his perfect Mormon world fell apart, Fales took his pain and confusion to New York City where he quickly descended into the gay underworld of escorting and drugs. Both touching and funny, Mormon Boy is a 90-minute reclamation saga of a Latter-day prodigal son that ends in a moment of self-revelation that "hits us between the eyes like a shot with a two-by-four" (Chicago Sun Times).

The very personal play shows the link between spiritual abuse and addiction. Fales defines spiritual abuse as any time an individual, group, or institution uses religion to justify telling or showing anyone they are not worthy of god’s full love and blessings. Mormon Boy also illustrates the dilemma of those struggling to reconcile their dreams of becoming straight with the realities of being gay and what it costs to accept or deny that truth when children are involved.

Fales says he wrote his "valentine to Mormonism and hedonism" for his children so that they would some day be able to understand their gay father. "I kept thinking that if I were to die, there wasn’t anyone I could fully trust to tell my kids who their ‘wicked’ gay dad really was and how much I loved them."

hahahaha

that sounds amazing

apologetic revisionists too in denial about the nature of their own faith while sumultaneously trying to live in the modern world veiling their cognitive dissonance with hostile assimilation confuse me. hint hint.