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toaa ia character in the comic books who represents the writer/artist and has appeared on panel. Everything that Thanos did was not only allowed but directed by him. Thanos would not absorbe the marvel omniverse if TOAA did not wish him to do so, and he could only do it because he had the heart of the marvel universe, not of the DC universe. He will not be absorbing the presence

Think of the Heart as TOAA's hand. TOAA was allowing Thanos to use His 'hand' to get him to eventually correct the flaw (himself). There wasn't a single moment where Thanos was any kind of threat to TOAA.


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in other words hotu thanos is Toaa's B*tch








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Think of the Heart as TOAA's hand. TOAA was allowing Thanos to use His 'hand' to get him to eventually correct the flaw (himself). There wasn't a single moment where Thanos was any kind of threat to TOAA.
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Originally posted by kevdude
thumb up He was used to get to that point the whole time. Quan just because he absorbed everything in MU does not mean he can surpass a God of another universe, especially considering didn't he have to die to fix the flaw? laughing out loud .
What does this have to do with anything concerning a battle between the two. These threads don't get silly as to bring in rlf people and writers. If Thanos has the means to absorb the entire dcu he wins this thread. It's a cakewalk.

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Apparently I am.

Either way, the Presence is a singular being who hasn't been affected by universes/everything getting destroyed. It happened in a DC story. I don't have scans, but way to go against the proof.

Also, COIE
So you continue to disregard everything I stated when we were directly talking about the presence and talk about a story without the presence? Interesting.

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TOAA has been shown on Panel...and Thanos can absorb the source of his power?


I guess Thanos could absorb pre-retcon Beyonder too!!!
Because the writer chose to. We don't bring real life people who draw themselves on panel here. Presence isn't the writer.

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toaa ia character in the comic books who represents the writer/artist and has appeared on panel. Everything that Thanos did was not only allowed but directed by him. Thanos would not absorbe the marvel omniverse if TOAA did not wish him to do so, and he could only do it because he had the heart of the marvel universe, not of the DC universe. He will not be absorbing the presence
No, it's a writer who chooses to include himself within the story how he deems fit. Thanos was tricked but in the end the choices were his. He was the man for the job but this has nothing to do with a thread concerning Thanos vs. the Presence.


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What does this have to do with anything concerning a battle between the two. These threads don't get silly as to bring in rlf people and writers. If Thanos has the means to absorb the entire dcu he wins this thread. It's a cakewalk.

So you continue to disregard everything I stated when we were directly talking about the presence and talk about a story without the presence? Interesting.

Because the writer chose to. We don't bring real life people who draw themselves on panel here. Presence isn't the writer.

No, it's a writer who chooses to include himself within the story how he deems fit. Thanos was tricked but in the end the choices were his. He was the man for the job but this has nothing to do with a thread concerning Thanos vs. the Presence.


The heart of the universe gave thanos omnipotence over the marvel universe, not an omniverse absortion superpower. He will not absorb the presence nor will he have any jurisdiction over the DCU.

TOAA is a character, not a real person, who appears on panel and happens to look like the writer, he exists in the fictional marvel universe and thanos would have done nothing without his consent. Thanos made the choices TOAA knew/made him make as thanos is also a part of TOAA who has been described as omnipresent.

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The heart of the universe gave thanos omnipotence over the marvel universe, not an omniverse absortion superpower. He will not absorb the presence nor will he have any jurisdiction over the DCU.

TOAA is a character, not a real person, who appears on panel and looks like the writer or artist, he exists in the fictional marvel universe and thanos would have done nothing without his consent. Thanos made the choices TOAA knew/made him make as thanos is also a part of TOAA who has been described as omnipresent.
This is a shred thread where their powers work in a combined reality. Thanos absorbs the presence and does so quite easily.

Again, Thanos needed to do something the TOAA could not do himself which really has nothing to do with Thanos absorbing the dcu here.


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So you continue to disregard everything I stated when we were directly talking about the presence and talk about a story without the presence? Interesting.
Yes. You haven't even the hint of proof.

Well, considering the Presence wasn't affected by all the universes being destroyed minus 5... so ya.


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Yes. You haven't even the hint of proof.

Well, considering the Presence wasn't affected by all the universes being destroyed minus 5... so ya.
That isn't everything is it? I fail to see your point. We have a direct line stating the presence consists of everything when someone wanted to go after the presence so why ignore it? I mean wow bran you should be better than this.


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Again, Thanos needed to do something the TOAA could not do himself
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Really you think there is something TOAA can't do himself?...If there is debate over who is more powerful,the most powerful person in DC or the most powerful in Marvel who was but a pawn to TOAA then TOAA is,as they say,ABOVE ALL!Why do you think he NEEDED help with anything.To destroy a universe he gets a box of pencils and starts erasing...


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Really you think there is something TOAA can't do himself?...If there is debate over who is more powerful,the most powerful person in DC or the most powerful in Marvel who was but a pawn to TOAA then TOAA is,as they say,ABOVE ALL!Why do you think he NEEDED help with anything.To destroy a universe he gets a box of pencils and starts erasing...
That's why Thanos was needed because TOAA could not do so otherwise why would he be needed?


In this story the writer needed Thanos because the writer chose it so. Ridiculous I know but the writer created a problem Thanos needed to solve for him. Bringing writers into debates is foolish anyways.


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That isn't everything is it? I fail to see your point. We have a direct line stating the presence consists of everything when someone wanted to go after the presence so why ignore it? I mean wow bran you should be better than this.
Because I know none of the context behind this statement, and you can't even tell me what story it's from.

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That's why Thanos was needed because TOAA could not do so otherwise why would he be needed?


In this story the writer needed Thanos because the writer chose it so. Ridiculous I know but the writer created a problem Thanos needed to solve for him. Bringing writers into debates is foolish anyways.
The writer wouldn't have had a problem unless the writer chose to WRITE a problem...if he created the problem he could have erased it and wouldn't have needed thanos for anything.

I do however agree no more talking about TOAA.No one in marvel,DC or any comic can beat him...NO not even squirrel girl and the batkcik combined!


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Because I know none of the context behind this statement, and you can't even tell me what story it's from.

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I told you it was from paradise lost after I thought about it. I am correct and hadn't read it in a while. You seem to want to ignore the fact Asmodel couldn't get to him but Thanos can. this is one of the simplest debates out there.


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The writer wouldn't have had a problem unless the writer chose to WRITE a problem...if he created the problem he could have erased it and wouldn't have needed thanos for anything.

I do however agree no more talking about TOAA.No one in marvel,DC or any comic can beat him...NO not even squirrel girl and the batkcik combined!
Again the writer chose to make a rock big enough he couldn't lift it so to speak. Like I said you cannot even grasp this simple truth behind the story.

Writers do have no place in comic book vs battles.


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I told you it was from paradise lost after I thought about it. I am correct and hadn't read it in a while. You seem to want to ignore the fact Asmodel couldn't get to him but Thanos can. this is one of the simplest debates out there.
Issue, scans, issue?


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Issue, scans, issue?
I said paradise lost. It's a three issue limited series. You are such a noob right now. I also sai dI don't have them anymore as I lost my hard drive.


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I said paradise lost. It's a three issue limited series. You are such a noob right now. I also sai dI don't have them anymore as I lost my hard drive.
I'm not searching through three issues for most likely an off hand comment.


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I'm not searching through three issues for most likely an off hand comment.
It was th emain point of the arc at the end. Neron duped him for his soul the entire time as they already learned this ages ago. You can't beat the presence as he is in everything so asmodel was running a fool's errand. he got duped and later struck back through the Spectre.


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Sounds like you're making something out of nothing tbh.


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