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Omega Vision
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That's not even the issue, his wins are PIS. Most high heralds could indeed match those feats against DS if he behaved like he did against SM.

"Arghh! Curse you Superman! I'll try blasting you once with my Omega Beams and then if that fails I'll start yelling and try boxing with you!"


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Or you know, maybe, Superman steps it up when he needs to, and is a lot more powerful than people give him credit for.


nope..it's PIS..

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Or you know, maybe, Superman steps it up when he needs to, and is a lot more powerful than people give him credit for.

Of course not. Then he wouldn't be "peers with Thor" he'd be better than Thor. Which of course is a crazy concept. stick out tongue


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Because Thor lost to Darkseid recently...

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Or you know, maybe, Superman steps it up when he needs to, and is a lot more powerful than people give him credit for.


Nah it's just PIS and we know this because the problem wasn't what SM did, thast wasn't beyond high herald, but what DS didn't do.

DS can teleport things light years away and he coudln't teleport himself out of SM's grip? For christ's sake, a purple eye crippled him once.

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Nah it's just PIS and we know this because the problem wasn't what SM did, thast wasn't beyond high herald, but what DS didn't do.

DS can teleport things light years away and he coudln't teleport himself out of SM's grip? For christ's sake, a purple eye crippled him once.

The fact that in the same retarded encounter where Superman outran the OE Darkseid was able to casually bfr him shows how retarded their fights are.

Darkseid's teleportation has a 100% success rate whereas the actual Omega Effect (which should logically be much harder to avoid/resist) has a much lower rate.


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Of course not. Then he wouldn't be "peers with Thor" he'd be better than Thor. Which of course is a crazy concept. stick out tongue
Yeah it's not like he hasn't taken on full on gods, went toe to toe with a king angel[Yes, Blue Superman, but he wasn't written as electric in those comics, just drawn that way, since they were conceptualized before that change happened.], defeated the current ruler of Hell in her own dimension where was considered undefeatable and godlike[and magic no less!], etc etc etc, you know, the history of Superman, that shows when he turns it on, he doesn't really have an peer among the casual superheros.


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The fact that in the same retarded encounter where Superman outran the OE Darkseid was able to casually bfr him shows how retarded their fights are.

Darkseid's teleportation has a 100% success rate whereas the actual Omega Effect (which should logically be much harder to avoid/resist) has a much lower rate.
Teleporting him away without a fight might not have been his agenda... It's that simple.


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Yeah it's not like he hasn't taken on full on gods, went toe to toe with a king angel[Yes, Blue Superman, but he wasn't written as electric in those comics, just drawn that way, since they were conceptualized before that change happened.], defeated the current ruler of Hell in her own dimension where was considered undefeatable and godlike[and magic no less!], etc etc etc, you know, the history of Superman, that shows when he turns it on, he doesn't really have an peer among the casual superheros.


All characters are like that because they have to save the day and if you take PIS away, most if not all of their feats of punching so far above their weight class would be erased as they mostly rely on villains being stupid or weaker than usual, forgetting their own powers, or on some plot device.

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All characters are like that because they have to save the day and if you take PIS away, most if not all of their feats of punching so far above their weight class would be erased as they mostly rely on villains being stupid or weaker than usual, forgetting their own powers, or on some plot device.
That's a wicked generalization. As such in the confrontation with Blaze, Superman simply walked through her magic powers.


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Blah, discussion for another thread another time.
Darkseid wins here.


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Blah, discussion for another thread another time.
Darkseid wins here.


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Or you know, maybe, Superman steps it up when he needs to, and is a lot more powerful than people give him credit for.


Provided written properly....................

Darksied is stronger and more durable then base supes.

If supes was to be bloodlusted and or sundipped of coarse he passes darksied in the strength department by far.

Unlike thanos in marvel darksied gets alot of shitty writing and loses when he shouldnt. darksied should never lose a fight to supes minus if it went to a brawl and he was sundipped. D.C's writing is much more on the inconsistent side with darksied then marvel is with thanos by far.

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I think it is funny how it never occurred to ds simply to fly over to earth instead of boomtube and crush the planet in his hand

I suppose that would be too hands on

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Until it actually deflects the OE assuming the Mjolnir can reflect the OE is asinine. Reflecting the beams to hurt DS is crap writing anyway.
It is however canon. if you want to throw out the appearances where it occurs this just makes you biased.


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It is however canon. if you want to throw out the appearances where it occurs this just makes you biased.


It is also cannon that ds cant be harmed by the omega effect. Period.

Crossovers are secondary cannon at best

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Darkseid.

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It is also cannon that ds cant be harmed by the omega effect. Period.

Crossovers are secondary cannon at best
It's inconsistency and one writer feels he can at least. It's canon and Bill wins.


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