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Definitly surfer, BB, or Ultron.

And Adam already did it.

So subtract supes and Thor. And i'm sure someone can provide some good mental defense scans for them. Just not me. thumb up

They lack the brute that every good team has.
Only one I can see maybe doing it is Surfer because of his upgrade.

I see gamora and the oblivion forged blade as killing him though if it hits him just right.

Adam was a member and as the Magus he has tricks these characters do not making the feat impressive. He was weakened and schooled them like nothing.


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AW was one of them. They'd mindwipe almost everyone else in that list.
Unless the psys get a TK shield put up fast Thor, Surfer or Superman would neutralize them before they could think mindrape Thor not so much though


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Unless the psys get a TK shield put up fast Thor, Surfer or Superman would neutralize them before they could think mindrape Thor not so much though
Surfer and Superman don't typically beat entire teams in seconds. Granted I am sure it has happened but typically as heroes they aren't balls to the walls right out of the gate just like the gotg don't either.


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Only one I can see maybe doing it is Surfer because of his upgrade.

I see gamora and the oblivion forged blade as killing him though if it hits him just right.

Adam was a member and as the Magus he has tricks these characters do not making the feat impressive. He was weakened and schooled them like nothing.
Ultron has mindraped all the avengers and BB has mindraped maximus who has god mental defenses of him own.

What?

Exactly. Any high herald should be able to.


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Ultron has mindraped all the avengers and BB has mindraped maximus who has god mental defenses of him own.

What?

Exactly. Any high herald should be able to.
Oblivion forged blade kills either.

Reread it.

No, only someone as crafty as Magus has done so in these circumstances. Guy was uber.


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Ultron has mindraped all the avengers and BB has mindraped maximus who has god mental defenses of him own.

What?

Exactly. Any high herald should be able to.
I don't think any high Herald could do it but their are a couple that could get the job done with some trouble


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Oblivion forged blade kills either.

Reread it.

No, only someone as crafty as Magus has done so in these circumstances. Guy was uber.
Not really. BB whispers and they all disappear. They aren't that impressive.

Re-read what?

Thor, Superman, Ultron, BB etc. should all be able to wreck them.


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Not really. BB whispers and they all disappear. They aren't that impressive.

Re-read what?

Thor, Superman, Ultron, BB etc. should all be able to wreck them.
BB's scream failed to even kill Vulcan so color me unimpressed with his whisper.

My post.

You haven't proven why they should be able to you just stated names and thought you proved something.


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BB's scream failed to even kill Vulcan so color me unimpressed with his whisper.

My post.

You haven't proven why they should be able to you just stated names and thought you proved something.
erm....it turned him into a skeleton. If vulcan didn't have healing powers it would have killed him.

Yes.What?

They should be able to as the GOTG are weak against someone they can't mindrape.


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erm....it turned him into a skeleton. If vulcan didn't have healing powers it would have killed him.

Yes.What?

They should be able to as the GOTG are weak against someone they can't mindrape.
If it killed him he wouldn't have time to heal. smile


Reread my post you stated what like you didn't understand it.

Gamora isn't weak nor was phyla's oblivion forged deathblade. Drax is also someone you don't want to turn your back on.


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If it killed him he wouldn't have time to heal. smile


Reread my post you stated what like you didn't understand it.

Gamora isn't weak nor was phyla's oblivion forged deathblade. Drax is also someone you don't want to turn your back on.
Turning someone into a skeleton usually kills them. Happened to thanos. Only person that hasn't been killed by being a skeleton is classic juggernaut.

I didn't. Define oblivion forge blade. You talking about godslayer?

Not saying they are weak. But they aren't that strong either. I mean honestly no one on that team except mabye drax is herald. Anyone with good mental defenses i.e. black bolt, ultron, surfer, etc. should be able to stomp them.


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Turning someone into a skeleton usually kills them. Happened to thanos. Only person that hasn't been killed by being a skeleton is classic juggernaut.

I didn't. Define oblivion forge blade. You talking about godslayer?

Not saying they are weak. But they aren't that strong either. I mean honestly no one on that team except mabye drax is herald. Anyone with good mental defenses i.e. black bolt, ultron, surfer, etc. should be able to stomp them.
Thanos is immune to death it states it right in the scan, noob.

Reread gotg. Not my problem you're confused.

Not a chance can they stomp the gotg especially with Drax, tp attacks, and oblivion blades coming at them.


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LOL i know right but their lack of actual powerhouses ****s them over honestly they couldn't even touch Adam Magus. Thats why the Avengers gets shit done they have power houses on almost every team pys don't cut it. What happens when their adversary is immune to tp or has high level tp themselves? They get anal probed. GOTG is a shit team


Yep.

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Most of these characters don't have that high of a mental defense and I disagree with most of these characters as well beating the gotg.


The Hulk would stomp the GOTG easily. Thor defeated Glory a psionic God, he would beat the GOTG as well.



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Adam Warlock was on the team for a short time after his resurrection. Their tech is great but how did that help them against Magus? Phyla-vell sucks i don't consider her a powerhouse even with various upgrades she's not a legit powerhouse i rather have the watered down doc Strange than Phyla. Overall i wouldn't say GOTG is a strong team thats ridiculous


That's because they aren't.

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Only one I can see maybe doing it is Surfer because of his upgrade.

I see gamora and the oblivion forged blade as killing him though if it hits him just right.

Adam was a member and as the Magus he has tricks these characters do not making the feat impressive. He was weakened and schooled them like nothing.


Now I may be wrong, but I can almost see an angle here, you place Magus in such high regards, in order to place Lord Mar-Vell in even higher ones, which in turn elevates Thanos. Fact being is that Thor recently resisted an ancient psionisist, named Glory, and I'd wager that Glory would mind rape the entire GOTG with ease, and beat them all on a physical level. Thor would do just fine as well.

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BB's scream failed to even kill Vulcan so color me unimpressed with his whisper.

My post.

You haven't proven why they should be able to you just stated names and thought you proved something.



Vulcan's power as you know is a different thing, he as he pointed out was or may still be, an Omega energy manipulator. not quite the same now is it?

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Thanos is immune to death it states it right in the scan, noob.

Reread gotg. Not my problem you're confused.

Not a chance can they stomp the gotg especially with Drax, tp attacks, and oblivion blades coming at them.


The one glaring weakness is that the GOTG aren't exactly an airborne troupe, and many Heralds are, some of them wouldn't need to even get close in order to decimate 95% of this team.


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Stoic ftw nice post pointing out Quans obvious bias is a bonus thumb up


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Yep.



The Hulk would stomp the GOTG easily. Thor defeated Glory a psionic God, he would beat the GOTG as well.





That's because they aren't.



Now I may be wrong, but I can almost see an angle here, you place Magus in such high regards, in order to place Lord Mar-Vell in even higher ones, which in turn elevates Thanos. Fact being is that Thor recently resisted an ancient psionisist, named Glory, and I'd wager that Glory would mind rape the entire GOTG with ease, and beat them all on a physical level. Thor would do just fine as well.




Vulcan's power as you know is a different thing, he as he pointed out was or may still be, an Omega energy manipulator. not quite the same now is it?



The one glaring weakness is that the GOTG aren't exactly an airborne troupe, and many Heralds are, some of them wouldn't need to even get close in order to decimate 95% of this team.
No, the Hulk wouldn't. He can't defeat all these characters nor does he have the skill to avoid the oblivion forged blade. His healing factor means squat against the blade.

Thor isn't stomping through this team either. too many things happening at once especially with the oblivion forged blade along with Drax and Gamora on top of the telepaths.

You have no proof to claim glory can defeat the entire gotg. None at all. What has Glory done ? We've also seen thor utterly humiliated by the ufoes. I mean come on now use your head.

Mar-vell and Magus's actions have made them uber not me. Comics show what the Magus is capable of while weakened and Mar-vell treated the new upgraded surfer like a noob who utterlu curbed BrB. All on panel.

Vulcan survived the blast and was still in the fight whereas Glads stomped him in moments. The thing is if a scream can't kill even vulcan or ko him it's not that impressive.

Most characters can't fight off telepaths and skilled opponents all coming at you at once especially when one has access to an oblivion forged death blade.


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No, the Hulk wouldn't. He can't defeat all these characters nor does he have the skill to avoid the oblivion forged blade. His healing factor means squat against the blade.

Thor isn't stomping through this team either. too many things happening at once especially with the oblivion forged blade along with Drax and Gamora on top of the telepaths.

You have no proof to claim glory can defeat the entire gotg. None at all. What has Glory done ? We've also seen thor utterly humiliated by the ufoes. I mean come on now use your head.

Mar-vell and Magus's actions have made them uber not me. Comics show what the Magus is capable of while weakened and Mar-vell treated the new upgraded surfer like a noob who utterlu curbed BrB. All on panel.

Vulcan survived the blast and was still in the fight whereas Glads stomped him in moments. The thing is if a scream can't kill even vulcan or ko him it's not that impressive.

Most characters can't fight off telepaths and skilled opponents all coming at you at once especially when one has access to an oblivion forged death blade.


Wait this is the very same Drax that a techo organic induced Nova played with right? The Hulk would treat him like he treated Warpath. TP wouldn't work on him, and even without his healing factor he would be able to create environmental devastation the likes that would blow Gamora away like a kite. The Hulk lost his healing factor when he fought the X-Teams, and this did very little to slow him down.

Now let's talk about Wolverines statement for a second, he said that he had noticed that the Hulk's hide had become harder to penetrate. Now let's factor in him at higher levels, World Breaker levels and beyond, and the possibility that Gamora may not have the necessary strength to pierce his hide with the Oblivion Blade. The rest of GOTG aren't going to be standing for long against a Hulk that isn't holding back. A weaker hulk was shyt stomping a more powerful team than this before he was banished to the Cross Roads.

Glory was an amalgamation of other Deities that he absorbed over thousands of years, and was amplified by the Chaos King. Yes he would stomp the GOTG into bite sized snacks. Thor went a round with a mentally induced Norman Osborne puppet named the Sentry, and was unable to recover before he was cowardly attacked.


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Wait this is the very same Drax that a techo organic induced Nova played with right? The Hulk would treat him like he treated Warpath. TP wouldn't work on him, and even without his healing factor he would be able to create environmental devastation the likes that would blow Gamora away like a kite. The Hulk lost his healing factor when he fought the X-Teams, and this did very little to slow him down.

Now let's talk about Wolverines statement for a second, he said that he had noticed that the Hulk's hide had become harder to penetrate. Now let's factor in him at higher levels, World Breaker levels and beyond, and the possibility that Gamora may not have the necessary strength to pierce his hide with the Oblivion Blade. The rest of GOTG aren't going to be standing for long against a Hulk that isn't holding back. A weaker hulk was shyt stomping a more powerful team than this before he was banished to the Cross Roads.

Glory was an amalgamation of other Deities that he absorbed over thousands of years, and was amplified by the Chaos King. Yes he would stomp the GOTG into bite sized snacks. Thor went a round with a mentally induced Norman Osborne puppet named the Sentry, and was unable to recover before he was cowardly attacked.
Why wouldn't tp work on him ?

Drax isn't just taking him on by himself.

Show me him doing so while being able ot fight off the tp attacks and the rest of the team.

Gamora doesn't have the oblivion blade phyla does. It is a death forged oblivion blade which will easily cut him. Wolverine isn't wielding a blade forged by an abstract and he still was cutting him. smile

What has Glory done other than lose to Thor ?

Please tell me.

Thor hit Sentry back and then got owned. He wasn't down when the ufoes attacked he just countered the Sentry. smile


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Why wouldn't tp work on him ?

Drax isn't just taking him on by himself.

Show me him doing so while being able ot fight off the tp attacks and the rest of the team.

Gamora doesn't have the oblivion blade phyla does. It is a death forged oblivion blade which will easily cut him. Wolverine isn't wielding a blade forged by an abstract and he still was cutting him. smile

What has Glory done other than lose to Thor ?

Please tell me.

Thor hit Sentry back and then got owned. He wasn't down when the ufoes attacked he just countered the Sentry. smile


Thor plummeted to the ground after Sentry hit him didn't he? Wasn't this when he was ganged up on? TP wouldn't work on the Hulk, he would just bounce it back at the telepaths, and cause them to receive migraines, which is what he did to Emma and Charles.

What has Phyla Vell done to warrant her being more of a threat than two entire rosters of Avengers, or three X teams? This is the Hulk at his most powerful during WW Hulk right? If he did not hold back, there was no force on earth that would have stopped him. I'm pretty sure that all of earths mightiest heroes combined with the Sentry would tear the GOTG to pieces.


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Thor plummeted to the ground after Sentry hit him didn't he? Wasn't this when he was ganged up on? TP wouldn't work on the Hulk, he would just bounce it back at the telepaths, and cause them to receive migraines, which is what he did to Emma and Charles.

What has Phyla Vell done to warrant her being more of a threat than two entire rosters of Avengers, or three X teams? This is the Hulk at his most powerful during WW Hulk right? If he did not hold back, there was no force on earth that would have stopped him. I'm pretty sure that all of earths mightiest heroes combined with the Sentry would tear the GOTG to pieces.
No, Thor batted him away and then the ufoes entered the picture. Your facts like usual are off when I am right on the ball.

Xavier at his best could defeat the hulk if he really went all out. He wasn't trying to kill the hulk at all in fact he felt guilty. The comic clearly points this out I mean did you think xavier was in bloodlusted, kill mode ?

This is an entire team focusing on one top tier with tp's and skilled warriors with death forged blades. They really don't have much of a chance and unlike Magus can't survive having their hearts ripped out.

The satellites stopped him and Strange could have stopped him with a twitch of his own finger as stated in ww hulk. He felt bad and hulk tricked him but with the current depowered strange he could have beaten him with one finger had he wanted.

I am exposing your fabrications from thread to thread. smile


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