My bad, my mind jumped to the instance where he pulled Mxy out.
I don't know how to compare escaping the Phantom Zone and Speed Force to punching through time, but I just don't see them being equal.
Regardless, Superman 1M's other feats are still significantly greater than anything Prime has done.
Edit: I just wanted to reiterate this: Right before 1M punched through time he stated that he had lost so much power he didn't have the ability to even use heat vision.
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He didn't hold it back, though- he just slowed it's forward progress, briefly. Now don't get me wrong, even that is still a ridiculously impressive feat, considering the amount of power that would be required to, even minutely, slow the forward momentum of an entire galaxy (can you imagine the mass that would be packing)!?
At any rate, I don't think there's a way to accurately quantify how much of that galaxy Supes actually stopped by himself. After all, it took everything he had just to barely slow its forward momentum- then Titano arrives, applies his TK, and *poof* the galaxy stops dead in its tracks.
Point being: Titano may have stopped 90% of the galaxy, and Supes may have only stopped 10%. Who knows for sure?
Relative time, I mean. I'm not convinced Supes would be able to break free of RKT's time manip in a reasonable amount of relative time.
Pfft, he was so weak by then that he couldn't even fly- yet he was still able to accurately punch his way through time until he arrived at a very specific date. Uber.
Well, despite Superman's absolute best efforts, he barely managed to slow the galaxy's forward progress. Once Titano arrived and applied his TK, the galaxy was stopped completely (and he didn't seem to struggle in the slightest.)
So tbh, my heart tells me Titano was responsible for stopping more of the galaxy. /shrug
I'm trying to compare to real life experiences. I think the addition of an equal amount of force can stop the momentum of something that wasn't stopping before. For example, some football (American football for you non-Americans) players can plow right through a single person blocking them but the addition of a second person stops them dead in their tracks.
Is the second person doing 90% of the work? No, probably more like 50/50.
/shrug
Theoretical situation: an out of control train is moving at 60mph -- Spider-Man hops in front of the train in an effort to stop it -- after exerting every bit of power he can muster, Spidey only manages to slow the train down to 58mph -- then Superman comes to Spidey's aid, and all of the sudden the train stops dead in its tracks -- granted, Spidey helping would have ultimately made it easier for Superman (stopping a train moving at 58mph is easier than stopping a train moving at 60mph) but the fact still remains that Superman stopped the larger 'portion' of the train.
That is akin to how I view the galaxy feat. Supes may have been able to [barely] slow the galaxy's forward momentum a bit, but when Titano arrived and applied his power as well, the galaxy stopped moving completely. To me, it seems like he [Titano] stopped the larger portion, but that's just my opinion.
....Except Supes didn't stop the galaxy. He slowed it, yes (which, as I said, is a gargantuan feat in its own right), but he did not stop it completely.
Superman 1M: "Even I can't hold back the weight of an entire galaxy." -- Then Titano showed up, applied his TK in conjunction with Superman's FV, and the galaxy was stopped dead in its tracks. Take that how you will.
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