Dumb Drax was a peer to Superman strength-wise and Thanos was clearly stronger than he. Surfer could shrug off blows from Thor but not Thanos and he physically defeated Lord Marvell from the Cancer-verse fairly easily who was also a peer to Superman.
If you are playing the feat war then yes Superman will come out on top, Thanos has less than 200 appearances to his name whereas Superman has thousands. Based on their respective "normal" power levels, Thanos is stronger than Superman.
When Dumb Drax was shown to be a peer to Superman in strength, was it canon?
As you know, non-canon showings are meaningless in a forum fight...
Otherwise, you agree with me that feats are the only thing we have to compare the two, and based on that, Superman wins?
Btw, what are you basing Lord Mar-vell being a peer to Superman in strength on? Last I looked, Superman trumps him as well in the strength feat department...
It's too bad Thanos doesn't have more appearances, but that doesn't mean you have to ignore the Superman strength feats.
Thanos has no real strength feats (except maybe the Surfer killing thing, but Hulk could do exactly the same under the same circumstances), but Superman has hundreds of strength feats.
Physical strength Superman >>>> Thanos.
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Drax tore apart a star with his bare hands that's firmly high herald level strength and was consistantly portrayed as being at this level but Thanos was superior to him in every way. Superman would have his hands full in a pure slugfest against that Drax.
No you can use Thanos' performances against other heralds and how easily he usually defeats them.
Feats do not (or at least shouldn't) overrule direct fights with other characters because not every character has a catalog of feats to draw upon.
The people that doesn't have a single lifting ft under their belts.
Doomsday
Darkseid
Grundy (can't think of one)
Amazo
Starfire
Konvikt
Titus
Abomination
Doomsday clones
Imperiex Probes
Etc, etc...
Using lifting fts as some type of argument doesn't aid anything here. Colossus lifting fts by far is better than almost everyone on that list but its pretty obvious who's stronger.
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Who's talking about lifting feats here. Name any STRENGTH feat not durability like taking shots from B&T thor, thanos has which superman can't replicate?
Yet you've said that you think Gladiator busting a planetoid makes him stronger than Thor (Putting aside the fact that Thor has better and more feats) despite for example Masterson Thor stalemating Gladiator in a contest of strength.
How is physically stalemating B&T Thor with the POWER GEM not a strength feat? I like how you failed to mentioned how Thor had the PG too. What do you think would happen if we put Superman against B&T Thor with the PG in a slug fest? Do you think superman would do better than Thanos?
Superman knocked out pre zero hour Mon-el in a single shot while suffocating who physically moved a star from one solar system to another. He has again overpowered Both lobo and mon-el the same style thanos used against thing and prof. Hulk. A group of almost every alien hero on earth which included Martian manhunter, power girl, Kilowog, Ultraa has failed to restrain him. All this talk of thanos being stronger is based only on the fact that Starlin himself retconned all low showings of his pet character.
That's a durability showing. Thanos didn't stalemate thor, he just took a few shots and trapped him in force-block. Superman took on an amped Infinity man who stalemated Mr miracle with ALE and tore down source wall in their fight. Remind you classic infinity man was stronger than Orion. Superman has taken shots from 3 PC Kryptonians, survived crushing from a Quantum zealot who were tossing planets around IIRC, survived suneaters exploding and collapsing on him, overcame a double black hole, held a black hole in his palm etc.
So we are taking a specific feat to determine who is stronger? Superman would lose like thanos would have if he didn't BFR thor. Speaking of single feats, how well thanos fared against a black hole?
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