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Add in the THOUSANDS of mutants, Thor, Hercules, Atlantis, with Namor, Iron Man, shield, the fantastic four, all of the Hulks (Hulk, red hulk, she hulk, doc samson, red she hulk) all the mages on Earth like Dr. Strange, Alpha Flight, the British heroes like Captain Britain, and you're out of your freaking mind if you think the SS is lasting for more than a few minutes.


Let's be fair, most of the super people don't matter. Surfer and wipe the planet Clem of non-herald life from a distance. If he just removes the atmosphere, most of them drop on their own in the few minutes that follow.


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Sersi is a good match for Thor or the Silver Surfer. Gilgamesh gave Thor a good fight. Ikaris could put up a brief fight against the Surfer. Zuras would beat the Silver Surfer by himself quite handily.

Are you kidding me?
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Sersi has the standard abilities of Earth's Eternals, though she has focused the majority of her power into transmutational abilities and passed it off as illusion or magic over the centuries. Sersi's psionic ability to rearrange the molecular structure of objects is far greater than that of any other Eternal; the limits on Sersi's molecular rearrangement powers are as yet unrevealed. Sersi is the only living Fifth Level adept at matter transmutation (on a 1-5 scale). She has the ability to alter molecular and atomic structures of all matter including living organisms. However, she has expressed difficulty in rearranging sub-atomic matter. Sersi has a gifted intellect, and superhuman strength (which she can supplement by psionically levitating heavy objects), stamina, durability, agility, and reflexes. Sersi possesses the ability manipulate cosmic energy to augment her life force, granting her virtual invulnerability and immortality, the ability to project cosmic energy from her eyes or hands in the form of heat, light, or concussive force, and possibly other powers. Sersi is resistant against cold, disease, electricity, energy, heat, radiation, and toxin attacks. She does not age, and can only be killed if her atoms are scattered. Sersi possesses total mental control over her physical form, granting her virtual invulnerability and immortality.
That one Surfer stomps 5 seconds at most...he has shattered peoples atoms before.
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The Forgotten One possesses immense superhuman strength. While the exact limits are unknown, he is known as the, by far, physically strongest of all known Eternals, save for Thanos. His strength has been shown to rival that of Thor, and Hercules. Like all other Eternals, The Forgotten One is virtually immortal. He hasn't aged since reaching adulthood and he is immune to all known diseases. Also, his body is highly durable and resistant to physical injury. He is capable of withstanding high caliber bullets, falls from great heights, powerful concussive forces, and temperature extremes without being injured. However, it is possible to injure him. He is in complete mental control over every molecule in his body, which allows him to regenerate any damaged or destroyed tissue. However, if his mental discipline over his body is broken, it is possible to permanently injure or kill him.

The Surfer has shown to be able to influence human emotion, there is no mentioning of resistance to molecular manipulation. Surfer stomps...he also stomps Ikaris.

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He possesses superhuman strength, speed, stamina, and durability, and can fly at subsonic speeds. Zuras possesses the ability to manipulate cosmic energy to augment his life force granting him great longevity and regenerative abilities, the projection of concussive force, heat and electrical energy up to a maximum range of 300 feet. He could also use cosmic energy to create force shields around himself, to levitate himself and/or others, and to psionically manipulate molecules so as to transform an object's shape. During his lifetime, Zuras was the only Eternal known capable of initiating the creation of the Uni-Mind (the collective life-form resulting from the physical and mental merging of a significant number of Eternals) by himself. Zuras is also capable of telepathy, illusion-casting, and limited teleportation.

Seems like the best the eternals can put up against the surfer, still no mentioning of resistence to anything. 1 min and surfer is done with him. The uni mind could be a problem to the surfer, but the only eternal that would be able to create it is Zuras and that guy the surfer probably would eliminate first. Remember that he has had a week to prepare and of course got a plan before heading into battle. It's not like he rushes in and all heroes and villains of the earth jump on him at once. I reckon there will be some assasinations before the starts the heavy killing.

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but the (I think) two times he's done it, he hasn't demonstrated that kind of ease or precision. For that matter, what makes you think he would benefit much from a week of prep? He's not that imaginative. What would he do with a week that he couldn't do in 1 minute?

He has done it two times because...he has morals. He is always holding back. Now what he could do in one week...a lot...like making a plan on who to assasinate first?

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Let's be fair, most of the super people don't matter. Surfer and wipe the planet Clem of non-herald life from a distance. If he just removes the atmosphere, most of them drop on their own in the few minutes that follow.


Even if he did that, that's not affecting the ones that really matter (and there are still HUNDREDS of heroes that matter here...nevermind villains, who are generally more powerful). And Sersi could just re-create the atmosphere anyway. The fact is, there are MANY people who beat the Silver Surfer ONE ON ONE here. Hell, there are people who could beat every herald of Galactus at once, including the Silver Surfer (Legion for example).

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Are you kidding me?
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That one Surfer stomps 5 seconds at most...he has shattered peoples atoms before.
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The Surfer has shown to be able to influence human emotion, there is no mentioning of resistance to molecular manipulation. Surfer stomps...he also stomps Ikaris.

ZURAS

Seems like the best the eternals can put up against the surfer, still no mentioning of resistence to anything. 1 min and surfer is done with him. The uni mind could be a problem to the surfer, but the only eternal that would be able to create it is Zuras and that guy the surfer probably would eliminate first. Remember that he has had a week to prepare and of course got a plan before heading into battle. It's not like he rushes in and all heroes and villains of the earth jump on him at once. I reckon there will be some assasinations before the starts the heavy killing.


He has done it two times because...he has morals. He is always holding back. Now what he could do in one week...a lot...like making a plan on who to assasinate first?


See here's why you shouldn't get your information from wikipedia.

Sersi has had her atoms scattered before, and she re-formed. You obviously have no clue who she is outside of a wikipedia article. (btw, those same articles will say Thor can lift 100 tons).

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Well this powerful form only exists in theory since the Silver Surfer never is bloodlusted and in fact would rather give his own life than to take another. But I think put all his biggest most impressive feats together and double it...then we got the kind of surfer I'm talking about. Being bloodlusted and preparing for a week is like amplifying the surfer's power output by like 100%. Because normally he never uses his full potential in battle, he is always holding back even when conquering planets.

He has shown to be able to battle beings considered far more powerful than himself and not really trying or always hesitating. (Like for example http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/...rmhms_super.jpg )This kind of surfer that would be attacking earth would be almost abstract in power. Without morals and bloodlusted. One thing is certain there isn't a single being on earth that could match him in power output, at least not when he has no morals and is bloodlusted. Just read the quote above for his KNOWN powers.

Question is if earth's protectors somehow together could stop him.


I honestly don't know how you came to that conclusion, but okay.

Also, I would read up on Thor if I were you.

Closing spite thread soon...


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Yea....Surfer has zero chance of winning.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Oh, and not to mention, if you scattered Thor's atoms, or the Silver Surfer's they would be destroyed. But its one thing to say that would kill them, another to actually do it.

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silver surfer is far stronger than hulk?
lol where did you get that OP?


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The uni mind could be a problem to the surfer, but the only eternal that would be able to create it is Zuras


Oh, and not true. Did you read that in wikipedia also? Because other eternals can make it.

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See here's why you shouldn't get your information from wikipedia.

So one shouldn't get info from the public knowledge that exists on the fictional characters? Where do people get their info from then? You?

And here is Silver Surfer easily knocking the Hulk out.
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So one shouldn't get info from the public knowledge that exists on the fictional characters? Where do people get their info from then? You?

This is getting ridiculous, I'm arguing with morons.


We tend to get info from the actual comics, rather than a website that can be edited by anyone with access to a computer.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Then why not actually show some scans that support your argument. So far you have done nothing but to assume the surfer would lose. Hmm let me ask you this...

Do you judge yoda by his size and his passive behaviour towards most people?
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Oh, and not true. Did you read that in wikipedia also? Because other eternals can make it.

Yes they could develop the ability to make it...but there is no known eternal that can.

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To be fair, we assume he'll lose because they are several people on Earth that have already beaten him.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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Yes they could develop the ability to make it...but there is no known eternal that can.


Again, this is flat out not true. Then again, this is coming from a guy who thinks Eternals are just "buff humans", and Sersi can be atomized, and the SS could beat Zuras in seconds, so I'm not surprised.

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To be fair, we assume he'll lose because they are several people on Earth that have already beaten him.

Yes beaten him...like who? Either it's PIS or in THor's case the surfer held back...he isn't the killing type.
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Again, this is flat out not true.

How about proving me wrong, I trust a wikipedia article more than I trust you.

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You really shouldn't get your info from bios. Sersi lacks surfer's speed, but is otherwise a monster. If surfer wants to try matter manipulation (like scattering atoms), he'd be picking one of the few beings on his level who's much, much better at it than him.

The idea of him beating the like of zuras is kind of a cruel joke.

What this comes down to is that marvel Earth is a lot bigger and badder than OP realized. Let this be a teaching moment.


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Yes beaten him...like who? Either it's PIS or in THor's case the surfer held back...he isn't the killing type.



Funny, considering when Surfer fought Thor when SS was amped by Loki, SS himself claimed THOR WAS THE ONE HOLDING BACK. Oh, and great argument: any time Surfer loses he was holding back or it was PIS. Hey, did you know that in actual comics Thor has been stated to almost always be holding back as well? MOST HEROES DO.

And lol at Surfer not being the killing type. I can't even count how many times he's killed in comics.

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Reed, adult Franklin, and young Franklin are on earth no expression Good luck to anyone trying to conquer that shit.


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Yes beaten him...like who? Either it's PIS or in THor's case the surfer held back...he isn't the killing type.


Glad you admit that Thor has beaten Surfer a few times, Iron-man also managed to ko him once and IIRC Gaea beat the entire Defenders team which includes the Surfer.


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I don't know why some of you are going on about being right and winning. Rob and Impediment were in on this gag because I PMed them. Silent and Rao PMed me and figured I changed the post. I highly doubt anybody thought Quan made the post, but simply played along just for the lulz.

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You really shouldn't get your info from bios.

Bios are the most...trustable source of information. Bios are never PIS and there is no reason to compare low feats with high feats in BIOS. They are simply fact...unlike most comics. The bios are what comic book writers actually look at when making their comics.
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Funny, considering when Surfer fought Thor when SS was amped by Loki, SS himself claimed THOR WAS THE ONE HOLDING BACK.

Was that in a Thor comic book???

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