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Originally posted by carver9
Thor could still have had some of the OF still stored in him even though Strange stopped him from absorbing more of it.

He couldn't amp which is the point. Thor did good because Hulk was holding back because AGAIN, Hulk didn't have a choice. He even states this, stated that if he amped, he would turn to Banner and die against Thor. Can't believe I am having this debate when its freaking obvious Hulk wasn't operating at full power (and was still holding his own).


Prove he did when Strange clearly cut him off from the Odin Force with that amulet. Otherwise it's baseless speculation. He can't "absorb" more Odin Force, either. He already had the totality of the OF at that time; just not the wisdom to use it like Odin himself.


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Prove he did when Strange clearly cut him off from the Odin Force with that amulet. Otherwise it's baseless speculation. He can't "absorb" more Odin Force, either. He already had the totality of the OF at that time; just not the wisdom to use it like Odin himself.



The OF wasn't drained from him either, he was just unable to tap into it further.


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Clearly you don't understand what an alternate reality is. That event occurred on Earth 616, it's just that THOR HIMSELF changed the timeline. So an alternate TIMELINE of 616 Marvel earth would be more accurate. An alternate reality would be something in a What If, or the Ultimate Universe. 616 Thor KILLED 616 Hulk, just because Thor took it back, doesn't mean it didn't happen, and he remembers it anyway, so it's part of 616 continuity.


This.

And even What-If's are canon until the point of divergence.


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The OF wasn't drained from him either, he was just unable to tap into it further.


Which means, for all intents and purposes, Thor couldn't use the Odin Force consciously. Which means Thor without the Odin Force = Classic Thor in terms of physical ability.


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Which means, for all intents and purposes, Thor couldn't use the Odin Force consciously. Which means Thor without the Odin Force = Classic Thor in terms of physical ability.



Nothing was stated that the OF that was inside of him already was drained from him by Strange. He still had the OF in him, Strange just stopped him from continuously tapping into that power.


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The OF wasn't drained from him either, he was just unable to tap into it further.

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Nothing was stated that the OF that was inside of him already was drained from him by Strange. He still had the OF in him, Strange just stopped him from continuously tapping into that power.


He was clearly stripped of the Odinforce :

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Strange : "The Odinpower is no longer yours."
Thor : "Impossible ! No mere mortal can do this."
Strange : "No . But the Council Elite of the Pantheons of Earth can."


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Nothing was stated that the OF that was inside of him already was drained from him by Strange. He still had the OF in him, Strange just stopped him from continuously tapping into that power.


And if he can't tap into the Odin Force, it doesn't do shit for him.

It was clear, abundantly so, that Strange stripped him of the Odin Force thanks to the Pantheons of Earth's gods help. Thor, without Mjolnir or the Odin Force, beat and killed Hulk and Thing after hours of grueling combat and not without injuries.


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Is this a joke? The Savage Hulk would destroy Ulik hand-to-hand, whether he's "at his best" or not. It would be close for awhile until the Hulk gets mad and 'smashes'.

As for the second scenario, how on Earth can Ulik come close to beating the Hulk if both are going all-out? This fight wouldn't last a page.

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Originally posted by keiththegreat
Thor #489


Against a Professor Hulk who would turn back into Banner when he got angry. Thor didn't win the fight anyway although he looked to have an advantage in the end.

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