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-Pr-
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^ Correct.

Thought so.

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Was it actually stated somewhere if Orion was given an amp by the Source? I know he was sent by the Source, but I can't recall an actual on panel proof that states he was amped. Anyways, at the level he was in (ripping open a trans-tier) is pretty damn beastly. I also didn't realize Thor has the PG in this. Provided he stays upright long enough, there's no telling what level he can reach and how much he can draw upon the PG.

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Thor doesn't have the power gem here.

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Galan...

Since you are well known with Doomsday, which Doomsday was it that was fighting alongside Superman? The last Doomsday we saw before this event was Doomsday Rex IIRC.

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Galan...

Since you are well known with Doomsday, which Doomsday was it that was fighting alongside Superman? The last Doomsday we saw before this event was Doomsday Rex IIRC.

Rex didn't show up until AFTER Imperiex zapped him. Which was after OWAW.

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Rex didn't show up until AFTER Imperiex zapped him. Which was after OWAW.

Ok...I'm getting the events mixed up. Which Doomsday was that then?

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Ok...I'm getting the events mixed up. Which Doomsday was that then?

H/P iirc.

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DD Rex was the version that Superman finally beat after he realized that DD could experience fear, right?

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Thor doesn't have the power gem here.

whups. read that wrong.

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H/P iirc.

Ok, that's scene is pretty much proof that Superman is on HP Doomsday level.

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DD Rex was the version that Superman finally beat after he realized that DD could experience fear, right?

Yep.

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Ok, that's scene is pretty much proof that Superman is on HP Doomsday level.

Yes, Superman without holding anything back is on Doomsday's level. We already knew that Superman in said mindset was a beast, which is why Galan included him among other powaful dudes.

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Look at Hal's other feats, aside from just his raw power output-- I can assure you he has some pretty darn good durability feats. Heck, even rookie Lanterns have survived planet-busting+ explosions.

Taking out Odin is questionable, sure. However, Odin is likely more powerful than all of team 2 combined. Personally, I see no problem with Hal one-shotting any of them, given the chance. /shrug

I was actually referring to Krona's durability, but the same is definitely true of Hal.

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Was it actually stated somewhere if Orion was given an amp by the Source? I know he was sent by the Source, but I can't recall an actual on panel proof that states he was amped.

This is why I have always believed he was amped...

When Orion first appeared, Darkseid stated that he struck him with "the power of the Celestial.":
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/131...08-018.jpg.html

Earlier in the issue, Darkseid referred to the Source Being as the "Celestial one.":
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/131...08-012.jpg.html
ie. Orion's assault was equivalent to the Source's... That's how I read it, at least. /shrug

And aside from Orion glowing with energy(which definitely isn't normal for him), Superman stated: "All that cosmic power, and it didn't come with a voice?":
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/131...08-028.jpg.html

...Not to mention that Orion was leeching Darkseid's omnipotence from him throughout the battle(as the first scan states):
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/131...08-018.jpg.html

So yeah, he was definitely more powerful in some way/shape/form.

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Ok...I'm getting the events mixed up. Which Doomsday was that then?

The version of DD that came after H/P and Doomsday Wars, but before Doomsday Rex.

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I was actually referring to Krona's durability, but the same is definitely true of Hal.

Oh, my bad.

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While Orion looked impressive in the scans you provided Galan (I'm speaking of his battle with Darkseid BTW). Did that battle appear to threaten one planet let alone multiple planets? If so Superman and the League would have jumped in no matter what Orion said. Just something to think on.

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They did jump in at the beginning and got owned.

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They did jump in at the beginning and got owned.

Yup.

When the JLA tried to get involved, Orion swatted them to the side with ease via an energy tornado.

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They did jump in at the beginning and got owned.

Would that have really stopped Superman who defeated Darkseid in single combat alone? Some things have to be questioned. Like I asked before, was the threat level that high? If it was the League would have found a way to seperate the two.

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