So yammamoto is #1 in the hst now

Well since this is clearly dragging on to something entirely different I'll end my post on the following:

1. Yamamoto isn't number 1 in the HST as of now or for the all-time characters(deceased/decreased) of each of the respective verses

2. Yamamoto wasn't even the strongest in his own verse unless Kubo takes back his definition of transcendent beings

3. Yamamoto tanking a city buster doesn't mean he can hang with mountain/island busters. Case in point, Tsunade can tank city busters by herself and function while being bisected.

4. Yamamoto hasn't shown the ability to keep fighting while tanking a city-busting attacks: his action afterwards was more inclined with suicide then actually fighting back.

So with that I'm done, take this as a win if you want.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well since this is clearly dragging on to something entirely different I'll end my post on the following:

1. Yamamoto isn't number 1 in the HST as of now or for the all-time characters(deceased/decreased) of each of the respective verses

2. Yamamoto wasn't even the strongest in his own verse unless Kubo takes back his definition of transcendent beings

3. Yamamoto tanking a city buster doesn't mean he can hang with mountain/island busters. Case in point, Tsunade can tank city busters by herself and function while being bisected.

4. Yamamoto hasn't shown the ability to keep fighting while tanking a city-busting attacks: his action afterwards was more inclined with suicide then actually fighting back.

So with that I'm done, take this as a win if you want.

The only people I see beating yammamoto in his own verse are the soul king(who might not be real),dangai ichigo and hogyokou aizen the latter two currently not even around. We have to see juha's full power though.

It shows his durabiltiy which means his body can take alot of punishment without wearing or tearing. He can tank quite a few of those quakes.

Whitebard has shown no tanking feats above that so yamamoto's durability is still better than whitebeards.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/bleach/v44/c393/4.html
then use mangahere
He created that instantly and look how wide and tall it is.
Your mixing it up with ennetsu jigoku you twit.

Oh, that?

The height of the flame is not as relevant as the amount of material destroyed, and even beyond that, it isn't larger than Akainu's attacks.

So? He was still easily penetrated which is my point yamamoto would not have been.

Prove this.

"Did so little damage" Any part of his flesh that was hit by that small amount of lava was completely obliterated. He has good endurance not durability.

He tanked the magma punch to the chest.

Not that this really matters, Whitebeard's powerset means he doesn't need to touch Yamamoto.

So what all the fodder in marineford were using haki?

Luffy: There are so many strong people here!

Using Haki or not, a good amount of them were very powerful.

LOL yamamoto's flames>akainu's magma
His flames turned metal to ash without even touching them you tool.

Tell me how powerful that is.

You can't.

I can tell you how powerful the berg vaping was.

Over 200 kilotons.

Quantify the feats you wank.

He had to pull his arm back then hit and someone with whitebeards speed can easily hit and finish the loser.

I agree, with Whitebeard's speed he can easily hit and finish the loser, aka, Yamamoto.

Whitebeard punches at Yama and wins.

Gigantic flame pillar says otherwise.

Quake punches end Yamamoto.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Oh, that?

The height of the flame is not as relevant as the amount of material destroyed, and even beyond that, it isn't larger than Akainu's attacks.

Prove this.

He tanked the magma punch to the chest.

Not that this really matters, Whitebeard's powerset means he doesn't need to touch Yamamoto.

Luffy: There are so many strong people here!

Using Haki or not, a good amount of them were very powerful.

Tell me how powerful that is.

You can't.

I can tell you how powerful the berg vaping was.

Over 200 kilotons.

Quantify the feats you wank.

I agree, with Whitebeard's speed he can easily hit and finish the loser, aka, Yamamoto.

Whitebeard punches at Yama and wins.

Quake punches end Yamamoto.

LOL revisiting all of our debates to try to muster out a win from already lost battle pathetic.

You clearly left out how wide it is and the fact that it reduced METAL INTO ASH which is extreme heats beyond A fool who's best feat is melting ICE wow amazing not.

City buster>one flame punch and a thin stripe of lava.

Oh man look he was easily burned through FACT so that makes his body not durable and him still moving is an ENDURANCE feat. The same amount of lava hitting his entire body would assuredly melt him let alone fire that is able to reduce metal to ash.

Umm no he said that after getting hit by someone who not only did not look like regular fodder but also was using a mace as a weapon rather than a gun or sword which is standard with fodder marine. He was pierced by fodder sad.

Have you ever seen metal be reduced to ash by heat? No we have seen it be reduced to molten not ash. How hot do you think yamamoto's fire has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Typo I meant yama kills whitebeard.

Instant huge and tall ass flame pillar says otherwise. And his strong attacks that will be the only ones that could hurt yama require him to pull back his hand which gives yama time to strike and kill him.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
LOL revisiting all of our debates to try to muster out a win from already lost battle pathetic.

You clearly left out how wide it is and the fact that it reduced METAL INTO ASH which is extreme heats beyond A fool who's best feat is melting ICE wow amazing not.

City buster>one flame punch and a thin stripe of lava.

Oh man look he was easily burned through FACT so that makes his body not durable and him still moving is an ENDURANCE feat. The same amount of lava hitting his entire body would assuredly melt him let alone fire that is able to reduce metal to ash.

Umm no he said that after getting hit by someone who not only did not look like regular fodder but also was using a mace as a weapon rather than a gun or sword which is standard with fodder marine. He was pierced by fodder sad.

Have you ever seen metal be reduced to ash by heat? No we have seen it be reduced to molten not ash. How hot do you think yamamoto's fire has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Typo I meant yama kills whitebeard.

Instant huge and tall ass flame pillar says otherwise. And his strong attacks that will be the only ones that could hurt yama require him to pull back his hand which gives yama time to strike and kill him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxoDYzqwEhw

Vid of "lava" coming into contact with a Much smaller amount of ice, notice how the Ice didn't instantly vaporize?

Once again, not being vaporized by that magma punch shows his Endurance.

Hove you ever seen a huge block of Ice instantly vaporized by Lava? How hot do you think Akainu's lava has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Quantity doesn't neccesarily mean quality, WB was busting two island sized ice tsunami's with simple quake punches, not to mention marineford.

.... You do realize Yama has to slash with his sword... right? That takes about as much time as it does for Whitebeard to quake the shit out of Yama

Originally posted by Samurai100
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxoDYzqwEhw

Vid of "lava" coming into contact with a Much smaller amount of ice, notice how the Ice didn't instantly vaporize?

Once again, not being vaporized by that magma punch shows his Endurance.

Hove you ever seen a huge block of Ice instantly vaporized by Lava? How hot do you think Akainu's lava has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Quantity doesn't neccesarily mean quality, WB was busting two island sized ice tsunami's with simple quake punches, not to mention marineford.

.... You do realize Yama has to slash with his sword... right? That takes about as much time as it does for Whitebeard to quake the shit out of Yama

THE DIFFERENCE is that akainu's attack was a CONCENTRATED and PROPELLED amount of lava.

The lava amount that HIT HIM WAS SMALL and the area it hit him easily vaporized him. The same lava but in a amount equal to whitebeard would instantly destroy his entire body. And the key word is "endurance" where im talking about durability.

Have you seen metal being reduced to ash?

Those were his stronger quakes which are also the ones he won't start of with it is like saying madara would automatically unleash PS.

The way you say it you imply that yamamoto is slow or that whitebeard is exceptionally faster which is false.

If the heat of His larger magma fist vaporized the Iceberg of that size, then shouldn't the heat have blasted a much larger hole in his body? not to mention his face....

Errrm, Whitebeard is much faster than Yama......

Case in point, surprising Akainu.... (Which wasn't due to sneaking up btw... the guys twice the size of anyone... and kinda the main focus... being the strongest guy there and all)

Originally posted by Samurai100
If the heat of His larger magma fist vaporized the Iceberg of that size, then shouldn't the heat have blasted a much larger hole in his body? not to mention his face....

Errrm, Whitebeard is much faster than Yama......

Case in point, surprising Akainu.... (Which wasn't due to sneaking up btw... the guys twice the size of anyone... and kinda the main focus... being the strongest guy there and all)

Because the attack itself was only the size of his fist being a punch from his reg fist just turned into lava so it only burnt the area at which it was large enough to hit and it easily did burn through him.

kizaru who is only lightspeed using yata no kagami. So he is slower not using it then whitebeard hit kizaru who was both not using that but was only in mid transformation to going out in a speed still slower than light speed. He is not that fast.

Akainu was distracted as if whitebeard was that much faster than him form the beginning then he would have beaten him in their first fight.

One flame pillar ends it.

If a Quake punch is > Yama's durability..

..and WB > Yama in speed..

The faster Quake punch ends it?

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
[B]LOL revisiting all of our debates to try to muster out a win from already lost battle pathetic.

This sentence is poorly constructed.

You clearly left out how wide it is and the fact that it reduced METAL INTO ASH which is extreme heats beyond A fool who's best feat is melting ICE wow amazing not.

It isn't very wide. Over 700 meters when scaled. Compared to the three kilometer icebergs Akainu vaporised.

Akainu's iceberg buster is more impressive.

Whitebeard's quake punches are definitely more impressive.

Tell me how hot it is, or how much energy is behind the attack. Quantify it.

City buster>one flame punch and a thin stripe of lava.

It isn't a city buster.

Oh man look he was easily burned through FACT so that makes his body not durable and him still moving is an ENDURANCE feat. The same amount of lava hitting his entire body would assuredly melt him let alone fire that is able to reduce metal to ash.

Akainu's chest punch was a magma punch nearly the size of Whitebeard's body.

You're wrong.

Umm no he said that after getting hit by someone who not only did not look like regular fodder but also was using a mace as a weapon rather than a gun or sword which is standard with fodder marine. He was pierced by fodder sad.

So because they used swords, they = fodder?

Yamamoto uses a sword. Therefore Yamamoto is fodder.

Try harder, seriously.

Have you ever seen metal be reduced to ash by heat? No we have seen it be reduced to molten not ash. How hot do you think yamamoto's fire has to be to do that. Extreme heat man.

Metal can't actually be physically burned to ash, it's liquidated. This is due to its physical properties, not due to it not being hot enough. Your argument relies on ignoring science in favor of how Kubo artistically rendered the burning of metal. That doesn't magically give it some unprecedented superheat.

Also, remind me, when is the metal turned to ash?

Typo I meant yama kills whitebeard.

Instant huge and tall ass flame pillar says otherwise. And his strong attacks that will be the only ones that could hurt yama require him to pull back his hand which gives yama time to strike and kill him.

He punches. 😐

He didn't pull back his hand when he destroyed the icebergs, he slammed it to the air and shattered them instantly.

Whitebeard is faster in reaction-time and can do this before Yamamoto can close the distance.

Originally posted by NemeBro
This sentence is poorly constructed.

It isn't very wide. Over 700 meters when scaled. Compared to the three kilometer icebergs Akainu vaporised.

Akainu's iceberg buster is more impressive.

Whitebeard's quake punches are definitely more impressive.

Tell me how hot it is, or how much energy is behind the attack. Quantify it.

It isn't a city buster.

Akainu's chest punch was a magma punch nearly the size of Whitebeard's body.

You're wrong.

So because they used swords, they = fodder?

Yamamoto uses a sword. Therefore Yamamoto is fodder.

Try harder, seriously.

Metal can't actually be physically burned to ash, it's liquidated. This is due to its physical properties, not due to it not being hot enough. Your argument relies on ignoring science in favor of how Kubo artistically rendered the burning of metal. That doesn't magically give it some unprecedented superheat.

Also, remind me, when is the metal turned to ash?

He punches. 😐

He didn't pull back his hand when he destroyed the icebergs, he slammed it to the air and shattered them instantly.

Whitebeard is faster in reaction-time and can do this before Yamamoto can close the distance.

Yet it is the truth, the sad pathetic truth.

Him melting ice is nothing to destroying town blocks made of much more durable stuff in a instant. Whitebeard starts of with weak quakes which don't even do much.

It is a city buster fool I already proved that to you.

R u high or just stupid?
http://www.mangareader.net/103-42471-10/one-piece/chapter-568.html
DOES HIS HAND LOOK LIKE IT IS AS BIG AS THE REST OF WHITEBEARD?!

Okay most marine fodder use either swords or guns and all look the same being fodder and all. The one who hit luffy looked much different and was using a weapon uncommon to regular fodder. Face it he was hurt by fodder.
Ridiculous comparison as the truth is that marine fodder either use swords or guns and wear the generic uniform while that guy was totally different.

Yet yamamoto has done it how many times?
"Reduce all creation to ash"

We only see him doing that after we are shown the waves crumbling so we do not see how he started off. Do you even think before you type?

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v57/c562/15.html
Nice reaction speed!

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yet it is the truth, the sad pathetic truth.

Him melting ice is nothing to destroying town blocks made of much more durable stuff in a instant. Whitebeard starts of with weak quakes which don't even do much.

Actually considering that the energy required to do so is over 200 kilotons, it is far more impressive destroying city blocks. It's more on the level of town busting.

It is a city buster fool I already proved that to you.

I'm gonna be level with you.

You haven't proved a single thing. You haven't actually proven Yamamoto can destroy a town, let alone a city, because your argument is based solely on something Aizen said.

If we want to go solely by what characters say, Whitebeard can destroy the world, based on Sengoku's quote.

So really, be generous I am even entertaining the notion that what Aizen says is 100% legit.

R u high or just stupid?
http://www.mangareader.net/103-42471-10/one-piece/chapter-568.html
DOES HIS HAND LOOK LIKE IT IS AS BIG AS THE REST OF WHITEBEARD?!

No, but that plume of magma looks about as big as Whitebeard's top half.

Okay most marine fodder use either swords or guns and all look the same being fodder and all. The one who hit luffy looked much different and was using a weapon uncommon to regular fodder. Face it he was hurt by fodder.
Ridiculous comparison as the truth is that marine fodder either use swords or guns and wear the generic uniform while that guy was totally different.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c569/8.html

Those are not generic uniforms.

They are not generic marines.

Yet yamamoto has done it how many times?
"Reduce all creation to ash"

Why didn't you show me the metal ashing feat?

And once more, that Bleach chooses to ignore physics in its portrayal of heat affecting metal doesn't make the heat inherently "special" or "better".

We only see him doing that after we are shown the waves crumbling so we do not see how he started off. Do you even think before you type?

Improve your English, really.

And you're assuming a level of telegraphing necessary for the quakes that we never see. Prove it.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v57/c562/15.html
Nice reaction speed!

A cheap-shot, and clearly Squardo is faster than Yamamoto.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Actually considering that the energy required to do so is over 200 kilotons, it is far more impressive destroying city blocks. It's more on the level of town busting.

I'm gonna be level with you.

You haven't proved a single thing. You haven't actually proven Yamamoto can destroy a town, let alone a city, because your argument is based solely on something Aizen said.

If we want to go solely by what characters say, Whitebeard can destroy the world, based on Sengoku's quote.

So really, be generous I am even entertaining the notion that what Aizen says is 100% legit.

No, but that plume of magma looks about as big as Whitebeard's top half.

http://www.mangahere.com/manga/one_piece/v58/c569/8.html

Those are not generic uniforms.

They are not generic marines.

Why didn't you show me the metal ashing feat?

And once more, that Bleach chooses to ignore physics in its portrayal of heat affecting metal doesn't make the heat inherently "special" or "better".

Improve your English, really.

And you're assuming a level of telegraphing necessary for the quakes that we never see. Prove it.

A cheap-shot, and clearly Squardo is faster than Yamamoto.

I do not even understand your opening paragraph.

Why do you think yamamoto rushed to stop the explosion? Because it is as strong as aizen said and would have blown the town and a much larger area sky high.

Please whitebeard was struggling to tip an island. Aizen is scared of yamamoto and aizen>>>whitebeard.

So the plume of lava that is flowing the opposite way should be included in the punch? Also the fact the hole in his body was the size of akainu's hand should have been proof enough that it was only the size of a regular fist! Your poor attempt at rationalization is sad as you just contradicted your own statement of it being as big as his whole body by saying it is as big as his top half. Twit.

Those are probably vice admirals not that it would matter as he was clearly hit by fodder.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47876-13/one-piece/chapter-576.html
To be hit by that many swords and bullets that means he was hit by fodder as there is definitely not enough vice admirals to do that.

You actually think any of these manga follow real life science all the time?

Im assuming? Wow you have no proof what so ever that he did that without pulling his arm back because we did not see him as the seen of the crumbling icebergs was far away.
Watch ep 473 the anime also depicted him pulling his arms back to do it.
http://www.mangareader.net/103-17410-3/one-piece/chapter-552.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-17410-16/one-piece/chapter-552.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47298-5/one-piece/chapter-575.html
http://www.mangareader.net/103-47298-6/one-piece/chapter-575.html
See the pattern you fool?
Including the video all of his biggest feats required him to pull his arm back. You SUCK AT DEBATING GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!

Cheap shot he was standing right in front of him and whiteebard was talking to him for crying out loud. Your such a shit debater I feel bad for you.

I really hate to go back on my work but lets be honest you really haven't given any reason why Yamamoto is no#1 in the HST. Dude if your not going to quantify any of Yamamoto's feats then just stop cause saying that his feats are high and mighty isn't enough.

Heck I could make an argument that Whitebeard wins because Yamamoto's an irrational ******* but I would be wrong since I haven't proven why. Then again it's friggin Whitebeard and going by word of mouth from Sengoku he can destroy the planet which is far more impressive than anything Yamamoto has been hyped up to do.

So Whitebeard aside, if your can't prove that Yamamoto is the strongest in the HST then he simply isn't.

Enel would 8eat him.

Therefore Enel > Yamamoto.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
I really hate to go back on my work but lets be honest you really haven't given any reason why Yamamoto is no#1 in the HST. Dude if your not going to quantify any of Yamamoto's feats then just stop cause saying that his feats are high and mighty isn't enough.

Heck I could make an argument that Whitebeard wins because Yamamoto's an irrational ******* but I would be wrong since I haven't proven why. Then again it's friggin Whitebeard and going by word of mouth from Sengoku he can destroy the planet which is far more impressive than anything Yamamoto has been hyped up to do.

So Whitebeard aside, if your can't prove that Yamamoto is the strongest in the HST then he simply isn't.

The title was to grab peoples attention to the possibility though he is not #1 I was stating the possibility there are at least some people who can fight him. But then it turned to whitebeard vs yamamoto.