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Rao Kal El
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Nope, it was said to contain infinite amount of pages from every book ever written, and also it was said to contain the multiverse.

It was never stated to be infinite weight nor being magical.

But it was said, " that if anyone can help me to lift a book with infinite amount of pages, is you captain marvel"

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And?

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Rao Kal El
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You do the math.

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Mar 27th, 2013 05:13 AM

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What math?

Mar 27th, 2013 05:33 AM

Rao Kal El
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How much you think a book with infinite amount of pages and the whole multiverse on it can weight, When it was stated that no one has ever read the book because simply there was no one able to lift it and read it?

That math

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Mar 27th, 2013 05:44 AM

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I don't know where it was stated that the book of infinite pages was magical in nature.
IF it was magical i could understand how it can be lifted.

Like for example, if a book contained 20 pages, but if you kept turning the pages, a new page would magically appear. Page 21, 22. 23 will appear while pages 1,2,3 would disappear. This way, you can have a book with infinite pages but is finite in size. But there was nothing magical about it or the monitors.

Not sure where that impression came from though.

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Originally posted by Rao Kal El
But if it is magical infinite weight, superman should not be able to lift not even half, can you guys make up your mind.

So is it magical or not?

It doesn't matter since they never used the words infinite weight.

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Guys, the book was infinite weight. The story made that blatantly clear. It's not related to the topic, so please, back to it.

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Lifting sky is lifting infinity? Since when?

Where does the sky end,

You know what nvrmnd you obviously missed the point of my post

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Hercules lifted infinity alone....

Herc has been stalemated by Thor in strength on multiple occasions

Thus

Thor is twice as strong as superman via your example...

And that's why we use avarages not weird abstract feats

Hercules never lifted infinite anything. If he let go then what will have happened?

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Are you arguing a hypothetical scenario with no evidence?

Makes sence

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Are you arguing a hypothetical scenario with no evidence?

Makes sence

The evidence is that the universe will continue to operate naturally whether Hercules held or did't held. The evidence is that there are abstracts tending to the universe (Eternity, Infinity, LT, etc.)

Nothing would have happened if Hercules would have said, ".... it, I'm letting go"
Also the sky could be understood as the atmosphere, not the universe.

Lastly, the universe isn't infinite my friend. There is a finite amount of matter and space. So even if we entertain the notion that hercules held up the universe then it's still not infinite weight.

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How much you think a book with infinite amount of pages and the whole multiverse on it can weight, When it was stated that no one has ever read the book because simply there was no one able to lift it and read it?

That math

The problem with arguing that infinite amount of pages should logically mean infinite weight, is that it should also mean infinite size.

Mar 27th, 2013 07:56 AM

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The evidence is that the universe will continue to operate naturally whether Hercules held or did't held. The evidence is that there are abstracts tending to the universe (Eternity, Infinity, LT, etc.)

Nothing would have happened if Hercules would have said, ".... it, I'm letting go"
Also the sky could be understood as the atmosphere, not the universe.

Lastly, the universe isn't infinite my friend. There is a finite amount of matter and space. So even if we entertain the notion that hercules held up the universe then it's still not infinite weight.

That's a theory not a fact, as is the big bang...

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Guys, get back on topic or I'm closing this.

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Okay, ill I was saying in the first place was that we go by average, that mean infinite lifting feats really don't count for much..

If you take things that killed classic Thor and now only deal minimal damage

Thor ~= Superman in combined durability & damage soak
OF Thor >>>... Thor in this

I could do this with striking power aswell with the Mjoinir feat

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Mar 27th, 2013 09:58 AM

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Okay, ill I was saying in the first place was that we go by average, that mean infinite lifting feats really don't count for much..

If you take things that killed classic Thor and now only deal minimal damage

Thor ~= Superman in combined durability & damage soak
OF Thor >>>... Thor in this

I could do this with striking power aswell with the Mjoinir feat

The problem with this argument is that the thread starter specifically wants to compare feats. Whether it's a fair or accurate way to compare the two is an entirely different topic.

And so far, I'm thinking Superman wins this.

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Anybody with any freakin common sense knows this version of Thor is above an Elite tier member. Fts are not needed to judge this. That's like me asking, "who is more powerful, Sun dip Superman or normal Superman". Youll be hard pressed at proving Sundipped Superman is more powerful than an average Supes since an average Superman has all of his fts. Or how about Superboy Prime or Guardian amped Prime. Who is more powerful? Based off fts, Superboy Prime is more powerful but based off common sense, Guardian amped Prime is. Your logic is flawed bro.

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Originally posted by pym-ftw
Where does the sky end,

You know what nvrmnd you obviously missed the point of my post

You obviously missed mine. No surprise there.

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Originally posted by pym-ftw
Okay, ill I was saying in the first place was that we go by average, that mean infinite lifting feats really don't count for much..

If you take things that killed classic Thor and now only deal minimal damage

Thor ~= Superman in combined durability & damage soak
OF Thor >>>... Thor in this

I could do this with striking power aswell with the Mjoinir feat

Except superman is more durable and has better damage soak than thor.

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Rao Kal El
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The problem with arguing that infinite amount of pages should logically mean infinite weight, is that it should also mean infinite size.

Ever heard what happens to a Solar mass once is compresed into a singularity? This is similar but in WTF scale.

Anyhow, we have ben told to get back on topic.

This is only one feat of superman.

And going only by feats (not implied power or hierarchy) superman should win this.

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