Idashi Uchiha. Upcoming new character for Misashi Kishimoto's 3rd naruto series

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
First im not religious.

Pfft! yeah, ok.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
2nd based on what you have said and shown, you revealed yourself to have the normal traits of a edomite of this day and age.

I am SURE you would have no trouble explaining that. 🙄 You have not had a coherent thought in your mind, never mind a complete one, since you got here. Every single thing you've ever raised here has been sumarrily executed and torn to peices due to the lack of evidence, lack of logic, and lack of fore-thought. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
3rd you did make fun of me just because you thought i was religious. Do you yourself know what you just did? Or are you playing stupid again?

No, I mocked you because you are acting like a looney moron on drugs.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
You can report anything you want. All they need to do is look through all of our messages to each other. Then they find out you are a individual filled with hypocrisy, pointing false claims in the direction of the accused. Keep on going 🙂

How am I being hypocritical when I am not the one proposing utterly ludicrous claims with no evidence, and getting pissed that everyone is not immediately agreeing that my fanfiction is a canon fact? Every theory I have ever made has been clearly marked as such, some turn out to be true, others do not. That is no biggie. All of my facts have been substantiated by evidence, refferencable evidence, and backed by others why also have evidence, If I have been proven wrong, I can admit that. I'm not such an egoist that I cannot admit I have been wrong. You stand alone in the dark corner, occasionally barking about your "wonderful peice of literature" that you beleive is canon fact, and even spoke to friggin Kishimoto without so much as a screencap of any conversation. And you expect ANYONE in any forum is going to take you seriously? Dude, understand this... the Mods here especially, favour cold hard evidence over suppositions. This is true for any self respecting forum. Now, you can cry and b!tch and moan about it all you want, you can make more outrageous claims like how the world's education systems are down the shitter, and how governments are scewing the truths by making certain words in the dictionary suddenly not mean what they mean or some other such bullshit you want to conjure out of your madhouse mind, but the fact is simply this = unless and until your thesis materialises in the official publications of the manga, without evidence, do not claim it as fact. Ever. And, even if it was a fact, understand this, you are posting spoilers, and that is also punishable.

You cannot win this, let it go.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Pfft! yeah, ok.

I am SURE you would have no trouble explaining that. 🙄 You have not had a coherent thought in your mind, never mind a complete one, since you got here. Every single thing you've ever raised here has been sumarrily executed and torn to peices due to the lack of evidence, lack of logic, and lack of fore-thought. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.

No, I mocked you because you are acting like a looney moron on drugs.

How am I being hypocritical when I am not the one proposing utterly ludicrous claims with no evidence, and getting pissed that everyone is not immediately agreeing that my fanfiction is a canon fact? Every theory I have ever made has been clearly marked as such, some turn out to be true, others do not. That is no biggie. All of my facts have been substantiated by evidence, refferencable evidence, and backed by others why also have evidence. You stand alone in the dark corner, occasionally barking about your "wonderful peice of literature" that you beleive is canon fact, and even spoke to friggin [b]Kishimoto without so much as a screencap of any conversation/ And you expect ANYONE in any forum is going to take you seriously? Dude, understand this... the Mods here especially, favour cold hard evidence over suppositions. This is true for any self respecting forum. Now, you can cry and ***** and moan about it all you want, you can make more outrageous claims like how the world's education systems are down the shitter, and how governments are scewing the truths by making certain words in the dictionary suddenly not mean what they mean or some other such ullshit you want to conjure out of your madhouse mind, but the fat is simply this = unless and until your thesis materialises in the official publications of the manga, without evidence, do not claim it as fact. Ever. And, even if it was a fact, understand this, you are posting spoilers, and that is also punishable.

You cannot win this, let it go. [/B]

Why would i have a link of me talking to Kishimoto, before i even thought about posting this thread?

Nothing has been Torn to pieces. Masashi made it quite clear that Idashi Uchiha is in fact, a canon character.

I already won, just by getting you to reveal you are a edomite, and a provocative one at that.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
I'll go with im posting spoilers for 200$ xD

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Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Why would i have a link of me talking to Kishimoto, before i even thought about posting this thread?

Because it is a pretty important peice of information? Even if you are right, and everything you could ever hope for comes to pass, you are running on a convo half remembered and no context at the very best. At worst you are a horribly deluded person who beleives their own lies so completely that it becomes your truth.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Nothing has been Torn to pieces. Masashi made it quite clear that Idashi Uchiha is in fact a canon character.

Not until it is shown it's not. And nobody is going to ever be convinced otherwise without proof, and I'm talking literal proof, not your word, or your mangled interpretation of it.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
I already won, just by getting you to reveal you are a edomite, and a provocative one at that.

You keep calling me that, even though the only one who cares is yourself. You don't even know what it means, and just use it as a cheap throwaway insult. Once more demonstrating your vanity and egoism.

You are a lost cause kid, not only is your argument lost, you yourself are lost. There is no hope for you here or anywhere else.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
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Because it is a pretty important peice of information? Even if you are right, and everything you could ever hope for comes to pass, you are running on a convo half remembered and no context at the very best. At worst you are a horribly deluded person who beleives their own lies so completely that it becomes your truth.

Not until it is shown it's not. And nobody is going to ever be convinced otherwise without proof, and I'm talking literal proof, not your word, or your mangled interpretation of it.

You keep calling me that, even though the only one who cares is yourself. You don;t even know what it means, and just use it as a cheap throwaway insult/ Once more demonstrating your vanity and egoism.

You are a lost cause kid, not only is your argument lost, you yourself are lost. There is no hope for you here or anywhere else.

I have shown evidence, and once the Idashi makes his appearance, i wonder what are you going to use in your last defense besides self contradictory insults and provocative sentences hmmmmmmm?

A edomite is exactly what you are, its not a insult. Its your bloodline, who you are. And i have you to thank, for revealing it to me. All because of your dislike against me 😉. Think next time.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
Its important to you maybe? But not me, this is something i knew well and clear far before Kishimoto even put Idashi's name into the sentence.

Right, because you have precognition now that you can read Kishimoto's mind! it is important to EVERYONE who follows the series. If you are going to make claims all round the net, then people NEED evidence. They don't need a raging jack-ass trying to force-feed them his crap like you are trying to do in every which way possible. if you want to make claims, and make them stick, provide evidence or don't bother.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
I have shown and once the Idashi makes his appearance, i wonder what are you going to use in your last defense besides self contradictory insults and provocative sentences hmmmmmmm?

You have shown nothing at all, not one link, not one pic, not one screen cap, not one peice of evidence. And self contradiction is your essence kid, I'm not going to be you're shield this time. i'm not going to protect you, or have yo try to push your own faults onto me. This is YOUR screw up. Have fun with that.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
A edomite is exactly what you are, its not a insult. Its your bloodline, who you are. And i have you to thank for revealing it to me. All because of your dislike against me 😉. Think next time.

Pfff! Your pretentiousness and egoism is showing again. You've never met me, you have no idea what you are saying, but you're god-complex is definitely loud and clear. i think I have sufficiently destroyed you're KMC reputation in such a way as to ensure you can never be taken seriously in public ever again, and I didn't even have to try hard to do it either. Your past and present ramblings did it for me.

Now, away with you! pwned

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Right, because you have precognition now that you can read Kishimoto's mind! it is important to EVERYONE who follows the series. If you are going to make claims all round the net, then people NEED evidence. They don't need a raging jack-ass trying to force-feed them his crap like you are trying to do in every which way possible. if you want to make claims, and make them stick, provide evidence or don't bother.

You have shown nothing at all, not one link, not one pic, not one screen cap, not one peice of evidence. And self contradiction is your essence kid, I'm not going to be you're shield this time. i'm not going to protect you, or have yo try to push your own faults onto me. This is YOUR screw up. Have fun with that.

Pfff! Your pretentiousness and egoism is showing again. You've never met me, you have no idea what you are saying, but you're god-complex is definitely loud and clear. i think I have sufficiently destroyed you're KMC reputation in such a way as to ensure you can never be taken seriously in public ever again, and I didn't even have to try hard to do it either. Your past and present ramblings did it for me.

Now, away with you! pwned

So what if its important to most that follow the series? My job is to reveal a certain amount of spoilers, see disagreements, then completely trash them once the truth comes to light.

Insults from a self contradictory matter is what you have proven to be more then several times.

No ego no pretentiousness. Away with your opinions edomite. Let someone new disagree with me.

Goodnight to all. Darkstorm 0..... use the time while im offline, to think of a good reply. Peace out everyone, when i get back sometime later i hope to see a pile of disagreements on this thread 😉

SWL always wants to be 'the guy who knows the hidden info,' in order to impress people, and he's pretty much pathological about just insisting anything he claims is really true no matter how much he's called on it. He possibly even convinces himself it's true.

Even if he claims something is from a source and then someone produces the source and points out that's not what it says, he'll claim that he's reading between the lines or that it says what he wants anyway. A claim which is pure sourceless made-up? Yea, he'll keep on claiming it forever.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic

So what if its important to most that follow the series? My job is to reveal a certain amount of spoilers, see disagreements, then completely trash them once the truth comes to light.

And then when it never comes to light, you'll just keep on insisting that it'll still happen at some point.

After all, this is mentioned by no Japanese sites, no Naruto sites with the best information, no official announcements even though some of the claims of this info on other sites is half-a-year old, yadda yadda. No-one who'd realistically have access to said information.

Hey, the thing about Facebook? It's public. If he'd said it there, it'd be all over the place.

LoL. This Star Wars guy

1. Where's the source? You got all this info about the character and then asked on Facebook about it, so where did this info come from in the first place?

2. Where's the proof of confirmation? If Kishi replied to you on Facebook, why can't you hop to the inbox and show us now?

For one of the above you mentioned not showing as people don't know Japanese.. do you? And irrelevant as some posters here do, have friends that do, can ask people or translate it online. So it'd be easier to just show us.

3. Since when did mangaka's write tons of chapters in advance? Part 1 was 244 chapters, part 2 is so far 383 chapters. Kishi being half way through part 3, 200 chapters laying in wait?

4. A tad much revealed? Why would Kishi reveal the next parts main antagonist, the big news of a secret surviving Uchiha, his backstory and all of his abilities and some plans for him? Why would he spoil such a major thing about his own manga?

5. Part 3? Didn't Kishi already state that the manga series is finished around the end of this year?

These are less about the validity of the claim, just the content;
1. How is he controlling shadows? Unless his mother was of the Nara clan.. even then I'm pretty sure abilities don't work like that.

2. How can he have Rasengan? Minato only taught it to Jiraiya and Kakashi, his teacher and student who were really close to him. Neither of these three would teach this move to a stranger.

3. How can he have Chidori? Less likely than the Rasengan as the only person that knew this move is Kakashi.

The Sharingan can't copy bloodlines or raw chakra manipulations. That, and these characters would remember and inform others about fighting another Uchiha.

4. How can he stalemate Naruto? He's physically one of the strongest and tied fastest characters in the verse, with high tier attacks and the Kyuubi. A Sharingan, Rasengan, Chidori, Amaterasu and a Dragon are not on this Kage+ level.

5. Whats his relations again? His father Idoshen is a brother of Madara, making him Idashi's uncle? Madara's other three brothers were killed when he was really young so we're to assuming Idoshen was older, which makes baby Idashi at most about 10 years younger than Madara.

At the current point in the manga Madara was born around ~100 years ago, Idashi would be ~90 now. The Sannin's were just still in their peaks at 50, Sarutobi was past his prime at 70, and Madara himself was reduced to using the Demon statue as a life support system when he was 90.. the same age Idashi would be.

The old at-deaths-door Idashi is to fight and tie with the current, Kage/Bijuu level Naruto?

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
You can laugh all you want. It just kinda makes you look more like a Jackass(:

He's not made up. That was just another person's view on the character. He posted his view below the answer.

Its kinda funny. Because one of my friends announced Tobi's existence before he made his debut. And once he did that, EVERYONE was so sure that he was non canon, but the truth came to light in Naruto Shippuden.

And the same thing is about to happen here. Idashi Uchiha appears sometime after the 4th great shinobi war. I wonder how stupid is everyone going to feel after they see Idashi 😄?

Here's a message for the foolish delinquents of this site.

Don't make a opinionated statement about something being false just because subject of note hasn't been made 100% visible to thee. 😆

Oh, I'm definitely a jackass towards delusional attention-whores such as yourself.

Actually, he is. See, he's either made up by you or Kishimoto. If he's made up by Kishi, he'll be canon. If he's made up by you, he'll be fan-fic. kruemelmonsteryn0
I'm going to guess he's made up by you, since you are the only person who talks about him.

He/she announced the existence of a masked man? Oh my, that is god-like!!!!

Not very stupid, not unless their self esteems are tied to the internet and to Shonen manga, which I doubt is the case with anyone I know here.
He's a fictional character in a Shonen manga. But I know you'll feel very stupid once the manga ends, and Idashi is nowhere to be seen, except in pathetic forum posts by you. On second though, given that it is you, you'll probably deny you ever made him up.

And with that, you're going on my ignore list. Later.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
LoL. This Star Wars guy

In the Star Wars forum he tries to convince everyone how these two little light side organizations (the Zeison Sha and Matukai) are so awesome, so much better than the Jedi, we're just biased for not admitting it and yadda yadda.

The organizations are only covered in three books.

Which I have.

And he doesn't.

He was literally going entirely off their star wars wiki article and making stuff up.

Originally posted by Q99
SWL always wants to be 'the guy who knows the hidden info,' in order to impress people, and he's pretty much pathological about just insisting anything he claims is really true no matter how much he's called on it. He possibly even convinces himself it's true.

Even if he claims something is from a source and then someone produces the source and points out that's not what it says, he'll claim that he's reading between the lines or that it says what he wants anyway. A claim which is pure sourceless made-up? Yea, he'll keep on claiming it forever.

And then when it never comes to light, you'll just keep on insisting that it'll still happen at some point.

After all, this is mentioned by no Japanese sites, no Naruto sites with the best information, no official announcements even though some of the claims of this info on other sites is half-a-year old, yadda yadda. No-one who'd realistically have access to said information.

Hey, the thing about Facebook? It's public. If he'd said it there, it'd be all over the place.

There is no hidden info.. Just go on Facebook and ask Kishimoto about his character Idashi Uchiha? I already did... which is the main reason i decided to post a thread concerning his future appearance, rather then just mentioning his name from time to time.

If you can't talk with kishimoto about Idashi directly...... Its not that you don't have the required source..... but rather a lack of the required knowledge.

How would you know if it wasn't on any Japanese sites? When you can't translate Japanese?

I can translate Japanese, google in Japanese, and more to the point, Naruto translators who follow Kishimoto can far better than I (and, like, not one of the half-dozen accounts under the name who aren't, in fact, him).

You seem to not get that real information like this spreads like wildfire.

There is no hidden info.. Just go on Facebook and ask Kishimoto about his character Idashi Uchiha? I already did... which is the main reason i decided to post a thread concerning his future appearance, rather then just mentioning his name from time to time.

If you did that, you can post a link to the original place he said it.

Originally posted by BloodRain
1. Where's the source? You got all this info about the character and then asked on Facebook about it, so where did this info come from in the first place?

2. Where's the proof of confirmation? If Kishi replied to you on Facebook, why can't you hop to the inbox and show us now?

For one of the above you mentioned not showing as people don't know Japanese.. do you? And irrelevant as some posters here do, have friends that do, can ask people or translate it online. So it'd be easier to just show us.

3. Since when did mangaka's write tons of chapters in advance? Part 1 was 244 chapters, part 2 is so far 383 chapters. Kishi being half way through part 3, 200 chapters laying in wait?

4. A tad much revealed? Why would Kishi reveal the next parts main antagonist, the big news of a secret surviving Uchiha, his backstory and all of his abilities and some plans for him? Why would he spoil such a major thing about his own manga?

5. Part 3? Didn't Kishi already state that the manga series is finished around the end of this year?

These are less about the validity of the claim, just the content;
1. How is he controlling shadows? Unless his mother was of the Nara clan.. even then I'm pretty sure abilities don't work like that.

2. How can he have Rasengan? Minato only taught it to Jiraiya and Kakashi, his teacher and student who were really close to him. Neither of these three would teach this move to a stranger.

3. How can he have Chidori? Less likely than the Rasengan as the only person that knew this move is Kakashi.

The Sharingan can't copy bloodlines or raw chakra manipulations. That, and these characters would remember and inform others about fighting another Uchiha.

4. How can he stalemate Naruto? He's physically one of the strongest and tied fastest characters in the verse, with high tier attacks and the Kyuubi. A Sharingan, Rasengan, Chidori, Amaterasu and a Dragon are not on this Kage+ level.

5. Whats his relations again? His father Idoshen is a brother of Madara, making him Idashi's uncle? Madara's other three brothers were killed when he was really young so we're to assuming Idoshen was older, which makes baby Idashi at most about 10 years younger than Madara.

At the current point in the manga Madara was born around ~100 years ago, Idashi would be ~90 now. The Sannin's were just still in their peaks at 50, Sarutobi was past his prime at 70, and Madara himself was reduced to using the Demon statue as a life support system when he was 90.. the same age Idashi would be.

The old at-deaths-door Idashi is to fight and tie with the current, Kage/Bijuu level Naruto?

2. The info came from one of Masashi's staff members (Unspecified) mentioning the name Idashi Uchiha. That and Narutopedia was where i originally found Idashi's profile among the Uchiha roster, but his name was removed and turned into a question.

3. I don't know for sure. But judging from the fact Naruto fought Idashi during the 3 year time difference between Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. Naruto after battling Idashi, tought him Rasengan technique.

4. I don't know how Idashi learned Chidori nor do i care. Idashi is the ninja known as the shadow and Madara's nephew after all. So either he observed His cousin Sasuke from the Shadows. Or he observed the Kakashi Hatake from the Shadows. Either one i don't know.

Idashi Uchiha's Sharingan is unidentified. We have yet to see its full capabilities. Same thing goes for the Byakugan.

Kishimtoto said Naruto Shippuden (The teenage Naruto manga) will end this year.

5. He is even with Naruto because he is what seems to be a future replacement of Sasuke Uchiha. That and shortly after Idashi's birth, Idoshen derived 80% of his Sharingan into Idashi. Idoshen also passed down his Kekkei Genkai to his newborn son, which is the black flames.

6. Idashi's father was Idoshen Uchiha. The later adopted son of Tajima Uchiha, Madara's father. Idoshen is Madara's 2nd brother.

7. Idashi would be in his late 40's going to 50's.

8. This is not as big as you think. All you really have to do is ask him about certain elements in Naruto, "like Idashi for one"
You wouldn't believe what you get in terms of information just by simply asking directly 🙂. Although i asked him..... i had to wait 4 months for a reply.

9. I already looked for the reply. He deleted it. because there was too many post on his wall. He has alot of fans ya know xD.

Originally posted by Q99
I can translate Japanese, google in Japanese, and more to the point, Naruto translators who follow Kishimoto can far better than I (and, like, not one of the half-dozen accounts under the name who aren't, in fact, him).

You seem to not get that real information like this spreads like wildfire.

If you did that, you can post a link to the original place he said it.

Since you know how to use google translator. Ask him yourself.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Oh, I'm definitely a jackass towards delusional attention-whores such as yourself.

Actually, he is. See, he's either made up by you or Kishimoto. If he's made up by Kishi, he'll be canon. If he's made up by you, he'll be fan-fic. kruemelmonsteryn0
I'm going to guess he's made up by you, since you are the only person who talks about him.

He/she announced the existence of a masked man? Oh my, that is god-like!!!!

Not very stupid, not unless their self esteems are tied to the internet and to Shonen manga, which I doubt is the case with anyone I know here.
He's a fictional character in a Shonen manga. But I know you'll feel very stupid once the manga ends, and Idashi is nowhere to be seen, except in pathetic forum posts by you. On second though, given that it is you, you'll probably deny you ever made him up.

And with that, you're going on my ignore list. Later.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
1. I don't know much about his shadows, but apparently he and Shikamaru have alot in common since they share he same base of Ninjustu.
2. The info came from one of Masashi's staff members (Unspecified) mentioning the name Idashi Uchiha. That and Narutopedia was where i originally found Idashi's profile among the Uchiha roster, but his name was removed and turned into a question.
8. This is not as big as you think. All you really have to do is ask him about certain elements in Naruto, "like Idashi for one"
You wouldn't believe what you get in terms of information just by simply asking directly 🙂. Although i asked him..... i had to wait 4 months for a reply.
9. I already looked for the reply. He deleted it. because there was too many post on his wall. He has alot of fans ya know xD.
Kishimtoto said Naruto Shippuden (The teenage Naruto manga) will end this year.

So all the info you had was the name someone said? How do you know he's a staff member, and can you show us this info? Also Narutopedia has no mention of Idashi, not even a page in the wikis deleted history.. so what are you talking about?
We're to believe he deleted all of his fans comments? Fans which he has stated to be his sole motivation in writing Naruto? And he's gonna do that to 'em?

To the question "Has the end of Naruto already been decided?" Kishi replied with "...but the end itself has been decided pretty clearly. So from here on out it will just be a matter of running towards that point." and said in early 2012 that 'Naruto' would end in over a year and a half, over a year left or over 50 chapters. Not really enough to end the war and start a 3rd part.

"Now that I have some extra time left, I might start on #chapter629, that will be a first time working ahead!" Twitter, he doesn't make mangas ahead of time, let alone half a series.

Originally posted by Star Wars Logic
3. I don't know for sure. But judging from the fact Naruto fought Idashi during the 3 year time difference between Naruto and Naruto Shippuden. Naruto after battling Idashi, tought him Rasengan technique.
4. I don't know how Idashi learned Chidori nor do i care. Idashi is the ninja known as the shadow and Madara's nephew after all. So either he observed His cousin Sasuke from the Shadows. Or he observed the Kakashi Hatake from the Shadows. Either one i don't know.
Idashi Uchiha's Sharingan is unidentified. We have yet to see its full capabilities. Same thing goes for the Byakugan.
5. He is even with Naruto because he is what seems to be a future replacement of Sasuke Uchiha. That and shortly after Idashi's birth, Idoshen derived 80% of his Sharingan into Idashi. Idoshen also passed down his Kekkei Genkai to his newborn son, which is the black flames.
6. Idashi's father was Idoshen Uchiha. The later adopted son of Tajima Uchiha, Madara's father. Idoshen is Madara's 2nd brother.
7. Idashi would be in his late 40's going to 50's.

Also strange how Itachi didn't kill him or report him missing. Surely an Uchiha that powerful would be well-known, especially to an Itachi who knew every secret detail about the Village and Uciha clan.

Actually the fight doesn't work on either end. Pre-skip Naruto would effortlessly lose to an Itachi level ninja, while current Naruto would stomp him. No stalemating.

Wait so this info also states that Idoshen is adopted? And why do you keep saying "2nd brother" when Madara had 4 brothers.
Madara states all of his brothers are dead by the time the Village is formed, so Idoshen would have been dead by this point. Meaning that Idashi must have be born in the ~10 year gap between his 3rd brother dying and Izuma's death. Idashi would have to be 80+ years old.

And we're to believe that not only did he delete it off his wall, but he decided to do so before anyone saw it and passed it along? Just... no-one was watching his wall, at all, when he wrote all this stuff?

Of the tens or hundreds of thousand facebookians checking his page only a single person managed to see it. Not that it even makes sense for him to clean up his page of fan posts.

Oh, and Q99 Kishi aparently only confirmed it, where an unknown staff member first said the name. But most important;
"Narutopedia was where i originally found Idashi's profile among the Uchiha roster" Sooo yeah, wiki.