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the ninjak
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Originally posted by thanos-prime
1. Why would he even know what a grammaton cleric is? It's a title that exists only in their world as far is i know. 2. Even if he did the job description would probably be something along the lines of a very highly ranked cop, Bane sounds much scarier.

He did with Bane while having been retired for years, injured and having been warned about him on top of that, Batman is not the smartest fighter.

Batman doesn't always do what is best or the most realistic approach.

Assuming batman doesn't get hit before he fires or as he fires by Preston's gun-Kata.

I don't, I think he would lose badly not nearly as bad as round 2 but still badly.

Forum rules dictate basic knowledge of each opponent.
A Grammaton Cleric his the ability of Gun Kata. We assume both characters exist in both worlds with basic knowledge of what the other is.

Batman with such limited knowledge would definitely approach the battle with much more caution as he did with Bane.
Who he perceived as being nothing more than a common terrorist, much to his downfall.

Wrong. Tranqs are silent and once launched give Batman enough time to duck behind any kind of solid cover. Tranqs are obviously slower than bullets so once Preston is hit and launches his own assault Batman is fine.

I still think Batman has a good chance based on tech and basic knowledge of what a Grammaton Cleric can do.

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Originally posted by The Silent Hero
Lol. I could kill Batman in Round 1.

lolz. No you can't.

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Originally posted by the ninjak
Forum rules dictate basic knowledge of each opponent.
A Grammaton Cleric his the ability of Gun Kata. We assume both characters exist in both worlds with basic knowledge of what the other is.

Batman with such limited knowledge would definitely approach the battle with much more caution as he did with Bane.
Who he perceived as being nothing more than a common terrorist, much to his downfall.

Wrong. Tranqs are silent and once launched give Batman enough time to duck behind any kind of solid cover. Tranqs are obviously slower than bullets so once Preston is hit and launches his own assault Batman is fine.

I still think Batman has a good chance based on tech and basic knowledge of what a Grammaton Cleric can do.

lolz. No you can't.

As i said a grammaton cleric is basically a high ranking cop, Him knowing anything more than that imo would not be basic knowledge.

What i get from your posts is that you think batman get's some gauge of preston's skill with his basic knowledge and that is why he would fight the way you think he would, But i disagree he would get a gauge of Preston's skill with just basic knowledge.

If he only perceived bane as a common terrorist even after alfred's warning then batman is a retard, and i have an even harder time seeing him fight with the level of caution you suggest.

Your assuming Preston jut let's him move around and shoot freely without putting up any kind of resistance which is ridiculous.

H doesn't have knowledge of what a grammaton cleric can do he has knowledge of what preston can do.

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the ninjak
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Originally posted by thanos-prime
As i said a grammaton cleric is basically a high ranking cop, Him knowing anything more than that imo would not be basic knowledge.

What i get from your posts is that you think batman get's some gauge of preston's skill with his basic knowledge and that is why he would fight the way you think he would, But i disagree he would get a gauge of Preston's skill with just basic knowledge.

If he only perceived bane as a common terrorist even after alfred's warning then batman is a retard, and i have an even harder time seeing him fight with the level of caution you suggest.

Your assuming Preston jut let's him move around and shoot freely without putting up any kind of resistance which is ridiculous.

H doesn't have knowledge of what a grammaton cleric can do he has knowledge of what preston can do.

Lol wut? Alot of mess in your answer.

Batman perceived Bane as a threat regardless of Alfred's warning agreed.

That was his famous downfall. That he would simply "fight harder". Which failed.

But a basic knowledge of what a Grammaton Cleric can achieve in a world where Gun Kata exists!!!!

Batman would definitely hold caution to that!

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I will say that fighting Bane face to face like that was what Bats chose to do AFTER he was fooled into a physical confrontation in the first place. For all we know he planned on stalking and taking out Bane in another manner

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Everyone's talking that Preston getting tranq'd is a point to Baleman.
Seriously?

So Preston wakes up, realises that Baleman has a "doesn't kill" rule & just pursues him again & again.

Preston has also more agility & stealth compared to someone wearing a Bat suit.

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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Everyone's talking that Preston getting tranq'd is a point to Baleman.
Seriously?

So Preston wakes up, realises that Baleman has a "doesn't kill" rule & just pursues him again & again.

Preston has also more agility & stealth compared to someone wearing a Bat suit.

1. This isn't to the death.

2. Batman is just gonna leave him laying on the floor and sit next to him until he wakes up? Batman is notorious for trying people up and Preston would be treated the same

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May 21st, 2013 02:20 PM

the ninjak
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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Everyone's talking that Preston getting tranq'd is a point to Baleman.
Seriously?

So Preston wakes up, realises that Baleman has a "doesn't kill" rule & just pursues him again & again.

Preston has also more agility & stealth compared to someone wearing a Bat suit.

KO counts as wins.

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Originally posted by juggerman
I will say that fighting Bane face to face like that was what Bats chose to do AFTER he was fooled into a physical confrontation in the first place. For all we know he planned on stalking and taking out Bane in another manner

True. Though no excuse for Batman not using a basic weapon in his arsenal.
If he didn't take tranqs into the sewers then it was an odd choice.

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May 21st, 2013 06:21 PM

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The first round either goes to Preston, or a draw via which Batman hits him with a tranq and Preston simultaneously shoots him in the face

Batman's odds in the second round

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Originally posted by Lestov16
The first round either goes to Preston, or a draw via which Batman hits him with a tranq and Preston simultaneously shoots him in the face

Batman's odds in the second round

Fight takes place in the Vatican. Batman can launch the tranq then quickly go behind cover.

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Preston will tag him. Dude's God when wielding a firearm.

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May 21st, 2013 07:39 PM

the ninjak
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The tranq is silent and from a distance and isn't as fast as a bullet.

Once the tranq hits. Hiding behind a pillar or wall will protect Batman form any resulting retaliation from Preston.

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Originally posted by the ninjak
KO counts as wins.

Putting someone to sleep is considered a KO?

May 22nd, 2013 01:34 AM

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Originally posted by the ninjak
Fight takes place in the Vatican. Batman can launch the tranq then quickly go behind cover.

Batman is a bitch.

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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Putting someone to sleep is considered a KO?

Yes. If they cannot continue it's a loss

EDIT: But even if it didn't Bats could tie him up, wait for him to awaken, and punch him until an actual KO happens

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May 22nd, 2013 02:12 PM

the ninjak
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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Putting someone to sleep is considered a KO?

Yup. Why wouldn't it?

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Originally posted by Mindset
Batman is a bitch.

True.

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May 22nd, 2013 03:05 PM

juggerman
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Originally posted by the ninjak
True. Though no excuse for Batman not using a basic weapon in his arsenal.
If he didn't take tranqs into the sewers then it was an odd choice.

He was trying to prove Alfred wrong. But since he never used them before i think it's only fair to assume he did not have them until later.

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May 22nd, 2013 05:04 PM

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Originally posted by juggerman

EDIT: But even if it didn't Bats could tie him up, wait for him to awaken, and punch him until an actual KO happens

Oh yeah...I forgot Bats is prone to violently beating up the helpless. roll eyes (sarcastic)

May 23rd, 2013 02:49 AM

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Preston wins

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Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Oh yeah...I forgot Bats is prone to violently beating up the helpless.

You mean exactly what he did to Joker in jail? Or Meroni on the fire escape? Yeah you know what you're talking about here roll eyes (sarcastic)

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May 23rd, 2013 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by juggerman
You mean exactly what he did to Joker in jail? Or Meroni on the fire escape? Yeah you know what you're talking about here

I take it you're referring to the Nolan movies?

Bats had every reason to bash The Joker (prior killings & intimidation of a loved one)....yet it's never been established in this thread the reason WHY Preston & Batman is fighting IE: nothing to suggest Bats would go to the extreme of beating a tied-up Preston.

And Meroni on the fire escape?
Yeah Bats tied him up, hang him upside down....and YELLED at him.
So you associate yelling & getting punched in the face as the same thing?

Lastly, Batman's traits & personalities were established a very very long time before Nolan came into the scene. roll eyes (sarcastic)

May 24th, 2013 03:34 AM

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