Other than Booster Gold's hyperbole about him being faster than the Flash, what else is there to suggest he has "high level superspeed"? There is more on panel documentation that Captain America is an FTL speedster with punches stronger than Atom Bombs... and I'm not being facetious. A lot of people said he was "fast" and he is... but there is a big difference between being fast and being Superman fast. He was able to keep up with Superman in that particular story because Superman was jobbed out and was slow enough that human reporters could give play by plays of his fight. Nothing suggest he could compete with the speed we know Superman is capable of.
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Aaaaand yet he gets beat up by Superman in a who can punch each other the most contests. Darkseid is a bruiser. I don't see how Wolverine with the speed of the Flash doesn't mess him up.
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They weren't always moving fast. Sometimes they would just stand in one spot and hit each other.
But you are lowballing. It was the clear intention of the writer to give DD flash like speed. No comic is written perfectly. There's contradictions in many comics, including your Marvel ones that you like so much.
I think Wolverine wins this fairly easily.
With speedforce, Logan can go intangible, IMP with the claws (nasty), etc.
I don't see DS beating him at all.
It must just be a coincident that in two decades since his creation he doesn't have single Flash level speed feat I guess.
This is the same bs that Thor-bags try to pull (in relation to his combat speed, not movement), citing narrative hyperbole and ambiguous rhetoric. Guess what, these aren't obscure characters who barely show up on panel, they are popular iconic if the writers intended for them to be legitimate speedsters... there would probably at least one concrete on panel example of that speed... but there isn't. Why do you think that is?
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My point being he has legitimately lost fights on panel, and via conventional damage no less. He gets punched or laser blasted into submission. He isn't an abstract being or an energy construct, he can be incapacitate via conventional methods, and you really don't think - based on how Darkseid fights - that Wolverine with the speed force is incapable of beating him? We know what his blunt damage soak is like, but having his insides sliced up at greater than C, is going to be exponentially more damaging than getting punched in the face by Superman.
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