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I wasn't aware time was out on the streets selling itself to Johns.

You lost me.


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But yeah, Superman retains his kryptonian density and above human power even after being powerless. Add to the fact that he was a street level fighter in early days who is not above playing dirty and can take huge amount of punishment before going down and he would win here convincingly. Thor and his vaunted skills aren't worth shit here against a legit meta.

I agree.

Superman shouldn't become an ordinary man if he loses his powers temporarily, it's been stressed so many times that he's not a human with super-powers, but a Kryptonian under yellow sun.

I don't think the thread starter is aware of this, but thinks that both would be ordinary humans if they lost their powers (which Thor more or less would be), a scenario in which I think Thor wins. If not, then Superman wins.

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You lost me.


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Seems iffy, yeah. but lord knows peak human means more and more as time hoes by.


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I wasn't aware time was out on the streets selling itself to Johns.


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Hahaha! thumb up


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I agree.

Superman shouldn't become an ordinary man if he loses his powers temporarily, it's been stressed so many times that he's not a human with super-powers, but a Kryptonian under yellow sun.

I don't think the thread starter is aware of this, but thinks that both would be ordinary humans if they lost their powers (which Thor more or less would be), a scenario in which I think Thor wins. If not, then Superman wins.
IF we are doing that wouldn't Thor keep his normal Asgardian physiology as well?

But besides that point I think it is pretty clear that the intention of this thread was for a human level Thor and human level Superman to go at it.


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Hahaha! thumb up


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But seriously though. I didn't read the story yet(pretty sure I have it, but I have lots and lots of comics I haven't read yet), so maybe there's something that could've stated definitively that Thor was powerless. And if so, well, ok. Writer's intent. But looking at the fight by itself? No, I'm not buyin' that a powerless Thor beat Grog through pure skill. And the fight was pretty much no-skill, just standard determined punches. If Thor's skill was that great, why does he have any problems, with say, Kurse? That would be like borderline Karate Kid level skill on top of Top-Tier strength and should own Kurse.


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IF we are doing that wouldn't Thor keep his normal Asgardian physiology as well?

But besides that point I think it is pretty clear that the intention of this thread was for a human level Thor and human level Superman to go at it.


True enough, and yeah, I assumed it would be human Thor vs human Superman.

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So, the real question is, which Superman did Supermex intend? Like I said, he has a habit of specifying DCnU. Supermex, did you forget, or intend Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman?


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Supermex also likes to add stips as he goes, so, you never know!laughing out loud

Current Superman is just not as skilled as the older version. I'd still give the win to Thor in this scenario regardless of the version.
Bias? I dont think so.
I'm one of the first to admit Supes is the more powerful of the two, powers on.


But he's not.


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But he's not.


roll eyes (sarcastic) I can see where this is going.


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IF we are doing that wouldn't Thor keep his normal Asgardian physiology as well?

But besides that point I think it is pretty clear that the intention of this thread was for a human level Thor and human level Superman to go at it.



This is correctsmile

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This is correctsmile


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So, the real question is, which Superman did Supermex intend? Like I said, he has a habit of specifying DCnU. Supermex, did you forget, or intend Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman?


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Thor with powers can't handle a normal man as shown just now in Captain America.

laughing out loud

J/K.

But yeah, Superman retains his kryptonian density and above human power even after being powerless. Add to the fact that he was a street level fighter in early days who is not above playing dirty and can take huge amount of punishment before going down and he would win here convincingly. Thor and his vaunted skills aren't worth shit here against a legit meta.



This ain't boy scout post-crisis Superman.
*shrug*

So does Superman's, whose battle skills is legend across time and space as shown when they were acknowledged by Pax Galactica and Legion of Superheroes.


No he does not keep his Kryptonian density, although you head does. Wtf, did you bother reading the OP? A NORMAL MAN. Furthermore, even in your messed up misinterpretation, why would Thor not retain his 680lbs of dense muscle at well? Damn you have issues.

This is not a fight. Thor is the greatest warrior in the 9 realms who happens to be 6'6". But Superman is a tomato can boxer?? Hilarious. So, a middle weight random boxer could beat Conan? Happy Dance


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So, the real question is, which Superman did Supermex intend? Like I said, he has a habit of specifying DCnU. Supermex, did you forget, or intend Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman?





My habit of late is dcnu just because I like to you use current standard levels of the hero or villain.


In this case I forgot that Clark pre-flashpoint and Dcnu are different in the knowledge learned so far in there hero life's..

In thus case to be more fair to Superman we will use per-Flashpoint unarmed Superman at human-level..

The same is for Thor, unarmed human-level..


H2H street fight!!

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Based on stips, Thor.


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My habit of late is dcnu just because I like to you use current standard levels of the hero or villain.


In this case I forgot that Clark pre-flashpoint and Dcnu are different in the knowledge learned so far in there hero life's..

In thus case to be more fair to Superman we will use per-Flashpoint unarmed Superman at human-level..

The same is for Thor, unarmed human-level..


H2H street fight!!


Well then, Superman wins. big grin


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No he does not keep his Kryptonian density, although you head does. Wtf, did you bother reading the OP? A NORMAL MAN. Furthermore, even in your messed up misinterpretation, why would Thor not retain his 680lbs of dense muscle at well? Damn you have issues.

This is not a fight. Thor is the greatest warrior in the 9 realms who happens to be 6'6". But Superman is a tomato can boxer?? Hilarious. So, a middle weight random boxer could beat Conan? Happy Dance

You have to love creative interpretations.

You do a good job of getting things back on point though...thumb up


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Thor rather easily he retains his his fighting skills plus we have seen him in mortal from and his strength would crush poor clark. exam lifting the bull statue i am not aware of anything superman has on par with that being "human"


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So, the real question is, which Superman did Supermex intend? Like I said, he has a habit of specifying DCnU. Supermex, did you forget, or intend Pre-FLASHPOINT Superman?
According to rules if not specified you always use the latest version of the characters.

Although he did clarify.

And I would take Thor in both, Pre Flashpoint puts up a better fight.


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Thor beats current Superman. Post Crisis Superman is a different beast though and could possibly win some against Thor.


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