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realistically does comic book movies actually draw movie goers into actual following weekly comics type nerds?

with gamers it's the other way around, most gaming movies are tailored for gamers

most comic book movies are tailored for general public


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that place is a mess, it's like mostly movie and tv show characters mix with manga and few comics

400k members looks like a lot, but compare to most hobbies on reddit this is tiny (for example r/nba has 6 million members)
yeah but that's comparing battleboarders to NBA fans

this is a pretty niche hobby. Not representative of either industry. KMC isn't dead because comics are declining, KMC is dead because internet message boards are digital dinosaurs.

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yeah but that's comparing battleboarders to NBA fans

this is a pretty niche hobby. Not representative of either industry. KMC isn't dead because comics are declining, KMC is dead because internet message boards are digital dinosaurs.


so where do most people discuss comics, other than message boards/forums


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realistically does comic book movies actually draw movie goers into actual following weekly comics type nerds?

with gamers it's the other way around, most gaming movies are tailored for gamers

most comic book movies are tailored for general public
Movies do boost sales, yes. Ie, Guardians of the Galaxy's change in status and sales figures because of the MCU.

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so where do most people discuss comics, other than message boards/forums

They don't. Only nerds like us do.


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so where do most people discuss comics, other than message boards/forums
idk because I'm dicking around on here and not wherever it's popular to hang out now

But r/Marvel has over 2 million members. Their insta has over 67M followers. There have got to be a million comic book podcasts, tiktok and YouTube vloggers... yada yada yada

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idk because I'm dicking around on here and not wherever it's popular to hang out now

But r/Marvel has over 2 million members. Their insta has over 67M followers. There have got to be a million comic book podcasts, tiktok and YouTube vloggers... yada yada yada


eh, those places on youtube or reddit don't have real discussion

the only other place i can think of is comic book resources, but that place so strict you can't even post scans that you didn't purchase


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Mr Mind just wants to argue about the infinite dimensions of the omniverse and hypertime and he's sad that nobody else wants to argue about it

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This is the best board to discuss comics on the internet imo.


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but that's just fan base for the movie though

people still buy actual comic books?

comics popularity is one third of the manga in america alone, if im being generous

from where ive seen

also for vs battles why do sites like kmc and comicvine have way fewer debators compare to 10 years ago

there's no traffic in comic vs battles at all
Social media, the type of people who are on those sites, so many far right trolls, scat fiends and paedophile, also the poster are adults in their 30's, 40's and 50's. You can only have so many of them and discuss Silver Surfer Vs. Thor so many times.

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i haven't seen that many far right trolls

when i was on misc of bodybuilding forum it was way worse


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it's nothing like 10 years ago at all

it seems like there is no traction in discussing new events and different titles

vs forum as well there is no debate on any matchups

not only here but throughout the internet

has anime officially taken over the comic nerd demographics?
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that's just it though, actual book sales is a very small reflection of what reality is

anime/manga fans are usually reading online just like most comic book fans

also if you check out anime sites like crunchyroll the traffic is insane

let's take comicvine for example, the biggest comic site on google

check out their vs forum, 60 percent of battles are anime related, the rest is comic movie versus, actual comic battles are like 10 percent


Crunchyroll has insane traffic?

Avengers made a billion at the box office. Even something like The Joker made huge profits. Let's not drag nonprint media into this.


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Re: what happened to the comic industry?

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it's nothing like 10 years ago at all

it seems like there is no traction in discussing new events and different titles

vs forum as well there is no debate on any matchups

not only here but throughout the internet

The comic industry stagnated because it hasn't been able to bring in new readers.

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has anime officially taken over the comic nerd demographics?

It's not fair to compare comics to anime because they're different mediums. Manga is a better comparison. But even then, it's not that simple, because manga works in synergy with the anime adaptions: the anime season ends, and people jump onto the manga to find out what happens next. You have nothing like that for comics. In fact, the jumping-on-points for comics are terrible.

Point in case, Amazing Spider-man ended, the new jumping-on point, Superior Spider-man #1, turned out to be another continuation. And unless you had kept up with Amazing Spider-man you'd not know why Dr. Octopus had Peter's body, or what was going on Parker Industries, and so on.

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More comics are sold now...

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More comics are sold now...

I'm not sure if that's true, because sales numbers aren't publicly available. All you have are estimates of sales. But supposing it is the case, it doesn't change that its presence online isn't what it once was.

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How do you gauge online presence?

After all, we have our very own Damborg, YouTube Thormaster.


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I'm not sure if that's true, because sales numbers aren't publicly available. All you have are estimates of sales. But supposing it is the case, it doesn't change that its presence online isn't what it once was.
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And yet,

https://www.comichron.com/yearlycomicssales.html

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How do you gauge online presence?

It's my impression from forums and social media.



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Like I said, these are estimates and these particular are made worse by the fact that they're based off Diamond's shipments, because Diamond no longer distributes comics for DC.

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