G og, Magog, Connor, all scale higher than Gladiator and Hyperion.
Blue Marvel didn’t do as good against Sentry as you think. Sentry’s weakness is negative energy and antimatter, there’s an entire arc in Sentry volume 2 about it. He also has wild up and down scaling based on his mental health. He punched him away and Sentry just flew back and stalemated him. This was despite most of the world being covered in antimatter at the time, which is his weakness, and BMs strength. This was probably as weak as we had seen him.
In the same arc, Blue Marvel was getting roughed up by Ares and Carol, who scale even lower than every character mentioned so far.
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This. None of them are. Superman scales over almost everyone. People think just because you have a couple feats that they operate in the same tier. They don’t. Just the bottom end of Superman, which all of these characters can do.
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Hyperion scales much higher than Magog, and little Conner. They’d be hard pressed to lift a building. Hyperion momentarily stopped two universes from colliding. What drugs are you on? Adam would punch a hole through Conner and accidentally kill Magog.
So what happened in the fight against Infinity Man? Blue Marvel would kill Superman BTW. Antimatter. Every recorded book that Superman has been exposed to antimatter it weakens him, or threatens to overwhelm his durability. Zod would take a beating too. Superboy is would look like a victim.
Negative. You might want to look into some scaling. Him being able to output and even look good against SBP, Darkseid, Orion, taking on KC Flash and Supes at once and schooling both for a while. Take on Black Zero, Black Lantern Kal L and explode him, overpowering multiple Kryptonians at once. Beating Match who is a clone of him that was able to easily put down Ultraman.
All these things put him in a class that Blue Marvel just hasnt consistently shown to be in yet. Blue Marvel lost to Sentry while Sentry was essentially in a world of his kryptonite, and BM is powered by it and uses it as a weapon. He got dogwalked by King Hyperion. Struggled heavy against Carol and Ares.
Most of the dudes I named for Conor absolute curbstomp every name mentioned there. Some of them could fight them all at once.
Oh, and Superboy was lift a building level back in his first few years of appearances before actually developing his powers.
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How does Mid Meta Conner defend against antimatter? Spider-Man has looked good against Morlun, Hulk, the entire X-Men, and beat Firelord up. You mentioning SBP shows just how incapable you are of thinking critically. It was plot, in a forum battle he gets one shot. Or are you saying that he would have a decent chance against Doomsday as well? Then the lies of Magog doing well against the Infinity Man while conveniently leaving out the full context as to why he was doing well is classic DS returning to his disingenuous ways.
Blue Marvel stopped a state sized asteroid that had to be moving at escape velocity at the very least, and he carted it away as if it were a paperweight.
Despite you and the DC crew claiming that Gladiator, Hyperion, and a full blown Phoenix Avatar in the White Hot Room are not much, and Pagan who whipped on one of the most powerful Avengers lineups only for Blue Marvel to solo him is stupid to claim that he scales below a guy that fought a Darkseid avatar which you are unable to quantify in terms of power is more of the BS that you’ve been sowing for years. Plot writers do not care about power levels in many instances they want to sell a book with flashy battle poses . This is not a comic book fight my guy, it’s a forum match.
What defense does Connor have against antimatter? Who in DC has a better strength feat than Hyperion who stopped two universes from colliding momentarily?
Back to the main question, what defense does Connor have against antimatter?
Any character capable of lifting 50 tons can toss Mangog a mile away, but that doesn’t mean that they actually critically harmed him.
All you stated was hype, every word. Blue Marvel scales to Mid Trans at the very least due to his showings. Prove me wrong low baller.
Neither is most of the JSA or Justice League bro, and for the record, only an idiot would take you opinion seriously. After all, you think Deathstroke would beat War Path who threw hands with the Juggernaut at full power even after Aquaman rag-dolled him and had him running for his life. Conner is a mid meta that has lost to weaklings needed his team to battle Pagan lite enemies while Blue Marvel has no consistent low showings.
How strong is the new Pagan? Because he got his life absorbed and died, then the energy was later released. He'd been dead over a decade at that point. It was odd seeing him randomly pop up and one panel of BM punching him with no real on panel resolution or what was actually happening in Age of Heroes 3 for you to hang your hat on this.
Against Sentry, the planet was basically covered in Kryptonite. It was covered in Antimatter, which is specifically Sentrys weakness, and Blue Marvel's strength, and he still wasnt stronger. Sentry himself also isnt the best barometer, as he's one of the most up and down characters Marvel has had. got stomped by Red Hulk, Hercules, Human Torch, struggled with Iron Man, and ended his career getting torn in half.etc etc.
He got obliterated by an inconsistent jobber.
Heads up, King Hyperion absolutely dog walked him, and even after waking up from being slumped on a rock and sucker-shotting his way back into the fight, he still struggled against a Hyperion who wasnt trying to end him quick but "let him live too long" and wanted "kill him slow." Beyond this, King Hyperion has basically zero good feats, save failing to hold two planets apart you like wank so hard.
This is why his respect threads are 95% trash like "gets knocked into a wall and gets up" instead of beating anyone worth a shit, or doing anything of note.
This guy could barely put down depowered no Cytorrak Juggernaut in Thunderbolts -after- cranking up his nanites to hurt him.
Mimic turned himself to metal with Colossus' powers and used Northstar's powers to go "half the speed of light' and absolutely knocked him unconscious. What do you think is going to happen to Hyperion against any heavy hitters in DC that are tougher than metal, stronger than Mimic, and faster than 'half the speed of light'? Welcome to one-shot city.
BM struggled against Ares, Carol, Luke Cage.
His antimatter blasts behave like generic energy blasts. So probably avoid or tank them. What's he going to do to stop Superboy from TTK exploding him with a touch?
Even in Superboys earliest appearances, he was too much for Aquaman[whos nearly equal to Wonder Woman], and casually overmatched Mon El. BEFORE getting older and getting his Kryptonian powers on top.
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Apr 29th, 2025 03:45 PM
I'd put Blue Marvel in the middle of flying bricks hierarchy.
