I consider myself a mainstrean horror fan (even if u can't tell from my nick) I have watched almost all the classics continuously as well as the sequals, except for the Omen cuz that smile on Damien seriously creeped me out at the end (one of the few things that did freak me out, i didn't think the movie was that scary, just the basic concept) and I LOTHE 28 days later, maybe because of the undeniable resemblence to Resident Evil, which disgusted me wth the grueling disease dogs, but I though it just wasn't very good, for no real reason, i found it predictable and just bad, for lack of a better word, I love the feeling you get when you get scared, and truthfully, many movies scared me more it was just bad and there truly is no other word to describe it. House on Haunted Hill was not that great either, I loved the scenes with the ghosts but not the in between stuff, i really enjoyed the suspense of the film, 13 ghosts was all right but it seemed more gruesome than scary, the concept for both 13 ghosts and HOHH was really good, i just thought they could have done better when creating the actual film.
Back to the topic, Underworld, it was completely predictable once you got halfway through the story.
Clockstoppers and Timeline. I actually didn't see Timeline, but I heard it was bad (it also looked bad to me). I loved the book, though.
EDIT: Oh and DareDevil. Such a terrific idea. A blind superhero with superhuman senses; how much cooler can it get? TERRIBLE movie. Ben Affleck as a superhero? How much worse can it get?
Masters of the Universe, they could have made that into a great film but it was really really bad.
Ivan Drago as He-Man, half the characters from the cartoon series wasn't in it, Castle Grayskull looked more like some technological tower and Skeletors army were Stormtroopers from Star Wars in black instead of white!
ANYTHING is better than the HACK of a movie that is "28 Days Later".
"28 Days Later" is a very simple equation.
Resident Evil + The Day After + The Omega Man = "28 Days Later"
It wasn't "scary as hell", it was ****in' BORING! It was a fesitval of tired, retread horror movie bits and pieces. Totally overrated, and totally unoriginal.
To answer the burning "name a horror film" question, here ya go...
Evil Dead
Evil Dead 2: Dead by Dawn
Ringu
The Eye
Silence of the Lambs
Bad Taste
Hannibal
Cronos (del Toro, not Vampire Hunter)
It
Scream
Dawn of the Dead
Dead Alive
Final Destination 1 + 2
From Dusk Til Dawn 1
The Devil's Backbone
Re-Animator(?)
Spiceworld
I mean, I could go on and on. Besides, how many of Dario Argento's movies are available in the US aside from "Suspiria" and "Trauma"?
Real horror movies have been dead for years now, especially after the rape, pillage, and whoring of the big 3 franchises.
Last edited by Cory Chaos on Feb 6th, 2004 at 04:42 AM
Bah. "Clockstoppers" was such a tweenie wannabe "BTTF".
My vote goes to "Flatliners". Cool story, but they got the 2nd coming of the brat pack to do the movie. Julia Roberts in the "Mystic Pizza" era, Keifer in "Young Guns" era, etc.
......hmmm..........some people might say you need to check the release dates on some of those movies.
- Nice list of mostly horror movies there.........I do notice that other the utter lack of classic horror movies (except for Evil Dead and Dawn of the Dead)...... those are the movies that jump to your mind when you talk horror?
"Real horror movies have been dead for years now, especially after the rape, pillage, and whoring of the big 3 franchises."
Do you mean slasher franchises? If you mean horror.........and not slasher, I hope to god you aren't talking about A Nightmare on Elm St., Friday the 13th, and Halloween. I hope you are not ranking those movies' franchise's above great horror movies that spawned franchises (with sucky sequels also) like The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Psycho, The Amityville Horror (part 2 was also good...the other two sucked), and ofcourse The Omen (which is the exception because it's sequels do not suck at all).
- You must not know where to look if you can only find two Argento films.................
"Nice list of mostly horror movies there.........I do notice that other the utter lack of classic horror movies (except for Evil Dead and Dawn of the Dead)...... those are the movies that jump to your mind when you talk horror?"
You asked about movies made in the last 17 years, that would be from 1987 to 2004.
I was only 2 years off on Re-Animator, Dawn of the Dead, and Evil Dead. The rest were all 1987 or after. That said, of course I'm not going to list classic horror movies, and I'm not even a fan of the genre, those should be common knowledge to any movie fan.
Ya want real horror titles, I'd shoot for..
The Last Satanic Rites of Dracula
Susperia
Nosferatu
Rosemary's Baby
Jacobs Ladder
Mommy Dearest
Phantasm
The Exorcist
The Prophecy
Romero Trilogy (Night, Dawn, Day)
House on Haunted Hill (Original)
Thirteen Ghosts (Original)
The Hills have Eyes
Last House on the Left
The Thing
Alien
The Fog
Poltergeist
Duel
Carrie
Scanners
Seven
The list could go on and on, back to old school "horror", while I respect it, I find it hard to watch.
Point is, "28 Days Later" is no where near the best horror film in the past 2 decades. It's a hack job, plain and simple, and terribly overrated.
As for Dario Argento movies, I couldn't care less. He's got 2, maybe 3 US titles, and I am not much for foreign films to begin with, much less foreign horror films, or horror films in general.
alot of good horror choices there.........especially Last House, Phantasm, Carrie, Romero "dead" trilogy, alien and se7en.
I do however think that Rosemary's Baby and The Exorcist are two of the most over rated pieces of crap that have ever been produced. I'm not saying that because they might not be as good as some newer movies.....but were good for their day. They weren't even good for their day. There are countless movies produced around the same time which are much better.....most notably The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, The Amityville Horror, Jaws and The Omen.
We has a misunderstanding. I actually asked for a better horror movie produced in the last ten years...........but I guess you thought I said 17 because I said it was the best horror movie produced in the past 17 years, since Hellraiser.
Kes........The Omega Man (great flick, I'm a Chuck Heston mark) isn't horror. It's a futuristic sci-fi flick. I do however see how he draws the comparison in some aspects of the film.....
Do you remember the end of "Resident Evil", when Milla Jovovich walks out of the Umbrella Corporation, out into the city, and it's deserted? Cars flipped over, papers everywhere, fires.
That's exactly how it was when whatshisname from "28 Days Later" walked out of the hospital. Completely abandoned, because everyone that wasn't infected, or dead, fled the city.
"Resident Evil" was even made before "28 Days" was originally released in the U.K.I dunno where I got that 17 years from, either. Maybe I was just in a blind typing rage, as usual. Even so, 1/2 of those movies fall in that 10 year period. IMHO, TCM is an overrated, glorified B rate cult movie.
Last edited by Cory Chaos on Feb 7th, 2004 at 12:58 AM
what is the use of comparing 28 Days Later to Resident Evil? If you are going to do that........you might aswell say they both copied The Omega Man.
Everybody has the right to like or dislike whatever movie they wish. You don't like Texas Chainsaw, okay. It did however start an entire film genre (slasher) that still thrives to this day......here 30 years later. Predator on the other hand, while being a good movie........all it produced was a half hearted farse of a sequel. I havn't seen it imitated for the last 15 years......much less the 30 years Texas Chainsaw has been imitated.
And of course, nobody can rip "Predator". There is no "paying homage" to it without making it a direct lift.
As for TCM, I think it's fair to say that none of it's sequels are garnering any praise, either. TCM got it's appeal for being what it was in it's day.
It's not gory, it's not scary, it was just shocking at the time, you know?
And IMHO, slasher films aren't thriving, they are barely on life support, and you can thank their very makers for whoring them out, and tacking on monotonous, haggard, empty sequels.
Resident evil is from March, 28 days later is from December.The difference is not big.Its not a copy, merely coincidence.Plus you cant compare both storys and the desolation of an empty London.
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