Yes but to the degree Jin and Kaz did it? Didn't see it so I don't believe it. I also said this before, Bryan and Paul are top tiers and their blows, which hit 100% with full force did not, I say did not even do half of the collateral damage caused by Jin and Kaz's missed blows (it was still impressive and sexy though). I think Jin and Kaz are in the top 4 of Tekken's best.
I get it Jin, Kaz and Heihachi but who's the 4th? Also when I watched the video I felt the same way. I was like "whoever says that Tekken characters are not on the same level as SF characters can kiss my.."
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Devil= Jin's evil side physically manifested
Angel= Devil's counter part
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Basically they're all one time abstract levels that end up getting defeated. So they don't really count. By the way, Raven is now one of, if not the physically fastest and strongest people in the Tekken series, his ending was awesome
Thats actually more plot than anything relating to their actual level of power. Besides, if they where not killed, most of them would end up money-butt rape half the planet, and watch with morbid facination as the other half gets a new hole blown through it as a result.
His scene for owning the NANCY unit actually makes Raven even MORE badass...
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Last edited by Darkstorm Zero on Nov 13th, 2009 at 10:18 AM
True, but if you take the cutscene to heart, he's fast and strong enough to dodge a bullet, and jump a few hundred feet straight into the air. Plus he moved so fast he didn't just dodge it, he left an after image. Plus when he tossed that shuriken/kunai, it went through about 4-6 thick stone pillars. And yes, slicing that thing to ribbons in a split second was uber sweet.
Canon as it's in campaign mode, and I wasn't shocked to see him do it considering his other earlier feats, but I didn't know his reaction time was around Raven's, lol, and it doesn't seem bullet-dodging is such a huge thing in Tekken. Many used to reference Ryu's bullet dodging in claiming he alone is above Tekken but we are now sure Lars, Heihachi and Raven can do these things (actually, wow, just remembered FAT BOB did it in the T6 intro). I think it's safe to say Jin and Kazuya can do this just as well.
Well...I was actually talking about shown physical trait-displaying feats of Tekken I wasn't talking about who I personally see are the best, because right now as for the current top 4 I will have to say they are:
1. Jin, with his full power unleashed, and surprisingly this was not Jin in his DJ appearance but his normal with an aura around him, or, it wasn't him at full then, I'm not sure, but it made Azazel look weak.
2. Azazel, Jinpachi, or Kazuya, all at full.
3. Azazel, Jinpachi, or Kazuya, all at full.
4. Azazel, Jinpachi, or Kazuya, all at full.
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Edit time over. This is my update. I made no changes to #1 though. I added 5, 6, and 7 also, cuz I felt like it.
1. Jin, with his full power unleashed, and surprisingly this was not Jin in his DJ appearance but his normal with an aura around him, or, it wasn't him at full then, I'm not sure, but it made Azazel look weak.
2. Azazel, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Unknown from Tekken Tag (just seems uber to me), or the strongest version of Ogre (because I know he has at least 3 versions, one being Tekken 5's most likely non-canonical Devil Within mode, which I think is the strongest), all at full.
3. Azazel, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Unknown from Tekken Tag (just seems uber to me), or strongest version of Ogre (see Ogre details in #2 ), all at full.
4. Azazel, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Unknown from Tekken Tag (just seems uber to me), or strongest version of Ogre (see Ogre details in #2 ), all at full.
5. Azazel, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Unknown from Tekken Tag (just seems uber to me), or strongest version of Ogre (see Ogre details in #2 ), all at full.
6. Azazel, Jinpachi, Kazuya, Unknown from Tekken Tag (just seems uber to me), or strongest version of Ogre (see Ogre details in #2 ), all at full.
7. Heihachi, although his durability probably beats that of #1-6.
These are my current thoughts but I'm probably thinking too much about it, so I should probably stop.
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Last edited by FWahMaN on Nov 22nd, 2009 at 08:01 AM
Actually i agree with you completely, except maybe Unknown. Also i wasnt shocked because of Heihachi's feat either, i always thought tekken chars should have that kind of speed and reflexes to do what they do and to keep up with the likes of Yoshi. I wouldnt even be surprised if hachi was bulletproof, btw remember Jin got shot before his firt devil transformation and he doesnt have a scratch on his forehead... Also imo heihache being in a coma for a month should be concidere as a low durability showing for him.
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Last edited by SamZED on Nov 22nd, 2009 at 12:02 PM
But I think that is stamina not durability, durability is toughness of the skin and Heihachi withstood that, and I would say he is bulletproof as well, if 5 JACKS destructing and blew him miles away didn't make a tear in him. The problem with CG from games before T4 is that they aren't too detailed so Jin probably was penetrated by the bullets but then his transformation healed the wounds.
By the way I also said Devil Within is most likely not canon (or just happened in Jin's dreams) for two reasons, one is that he thought Jun was alive when Tekken history in 6 said she was killed by Ogre, and the fact the Tekken history does not hint at all about anything regarding Devil Within, so I think it was a dream Jin was having after wrecking the forest and going to sleep, I don't know. Would have been cool though and all this time I thought it was since in the prologue of Devil Within, it said it started right when the JACKS invaded Honmaru. Guess Namco changed their minds?
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