I'm not so sure, a few have appeared in DC proper I admit, but things happen in thier own titles that doesn't stretch to the DCU, like God getting shot up in Preacher. Elaine destroying the entire concept of Hell in Lucifer. Boston Brand not being Deadman in Vertigo. Needless to say Testament doesn't take place in continuty either.. Them crossing into a DCU comic seems no more or less meaningful than a Batman Spiderman teamup. And likewise - the idea of including them into Hypertime seems no more or less likely than finding Image or Marvel on the other end.
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Your're kinda just speculating away there buddy.
Hypertime in DC Comics ACCORDING to DC Execs...
Hypertime has been infrequently utilized in DC titles subsequent to its introduction in The Kingdom, perhaps as a result of its chief architects and proponents, writers Mark Waid and Grant Morrison, working elsewhere in the comics industry (notably for Marvel Comics) .
While the concept was used in a multi-part story involving the Modern Age Superboy, many writers (such as "Teen Titans" writer Jay Faeber) found that their attempts to use Hypertime were either outright rejected or their stories severely altered to allow no attempt to further expand upon the concept.
In fact, promotional talks at the 2005 San Diego Comic-Con (July 2005), DC Executive Editor Dan Didio EFFECTIVELY disavowed the concept of hypertime,
Stating it would NO LONGER BE USED in Future DCU titles.
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Spectre refers to one as a universe, one he specifically put Stigmonus into. Stigmonus being an abstract that could affect multiple timelines at the same time.
Every thought and action has an alternate one of the bubbles.
That was said in the original scan.
Do you think that is confined merely to Earth, and merely to now?
Every thought in the history and future creates another universe.
A multiverse.
And you can see Spectre sending selves to each of the universe, even to change their courses as well.
Spectre talks about some of his duties in issue 27.
"I sail off across the Earth day after day, night after night, in more shapes and forms than I could ever count. Sail off to do what must be done in order to save the world one soul at a time."
"Across the Earth and across the galaxies. For my work isn't limited to one planet, one culture, one small vision of reality. The Hand of the Divine reaches across space and time... across all the limitless planes of existance. And where he points. I follow....
..cajoling and caressing, exhorting and harassing, comforting and terrifying, doing whatever needs to be done."
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Yet they still use characters from Hypertime, such as Offspring, Waverider, and others.
And Mark Waid and Grant Morrison are working for DC comics - Grant Morrison writing All Star Superman, and Seven Soldiers, as well as Authority and Wildcats, and Mark Waid is writing Legion of Superheros. Just to show you how off the info is.
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Michael Hutchison, a DC Writer and the Editor of the DC site.
Here is Michael Hutchison spitting the truth about Mark Waid and his displeasure with Hypertime, and why it's down the tubes as far as Continuity is concerned.
"Mark says that Hypertime is more than just alternate timelines and realities. Hypertime is like a river of time that occasionally deviates from its course and then splinters off and pours back into the main river. What this means in non-analogous terms is that alternate timelines may, at times, cross over with the main timestream, thus explaining any incongruities or inaccuracies. In Waid's own example of JLAY1, the explanation for the Blackhawks appearing is that they are from an alternate timeline which crossed over.
This is a load of crap. Period. I mean, logically it doesn't make ANY sense. More to the point, it opens up the floodgates for writers to explain away their sloppy research. In the examples above, Mark just didn't do his homework and now he's trying to find something to blame it on"
Fans: "How could the Seven Soldiers of Victory be in JLA: Year One?"
Waid: "Um…HYPERTIME!"
Fans: "Why is that Martian City name Z'onn Z'orr similar to J'onn J'onzz's name when his name was supposedly made up by Dr. Erdel?"
Morrison: "Um…HYPERTIME!"
Fans: "How come J'onn J'onzz now has a new origin? What about all of those great J'onn stories which were published building upon the 1980's series which are now rendered irrelevant?"
Ostrander: "Um…HYPERTIME!"
Bottomline, though Alternate storylines are being published, they are as ficticious (non-Canon) as Elseworlds titles.
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that's interesting. i'll check it out. if it has been abolished i . . . find it hard to believe. perhaps it has been altered, because as jun said the linear are the guardians of hypertime and they are still present and active in the dcu. kismet -- whose role seems to be illuminating selected paths from varying diverging realities -- is apparently still alive and functioning.
i wonder what kind of in-book proof there is to substantiate the claim. calling it a load of crap, and EFFECTIVELY disavowing it, doesn't equate its being removed from continuity altogether. to the best of my knowledge there has never been a definite retcon of hypertime, which is essentially what would be needed.
his description and feeling toward hypertime sounds like a certain editor's feelings about a certain beyonder . . .
Actually bro, Hypertime is mentioned in the newest issue of 52 that came out on Wednesday.
I actually read it when I left here earlier this morning.
Waverider is in the issue.
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Last edited by Juntai on Nov 9th, 2006 at 10:57 PM
i don't really wanna drag this back into it, as i don't have the posts anymore. but dan dido, executive editor over mark waid disavowed the usage of hypertime. he went so far as to say that there would be no future uses of hypertime by his staff. Any persons using hypertime are doing so against the DC directive.
I'm paraphrasing but thats basically what the top dog said...
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I liked seeing the Spectre in it too. I'm assuming this takes place inside of the 3 issue "Crisis Aftermath" series, when Crispus took a year to decide if he wanted to become God's Wrath or not.
"Of all the beings in creation, you are by far the most powerful."
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