Originally posted by Juk3n
My personal favourite is Voltaires' "If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him"I think this is the most relevent one in history of civilization. Infact it's ironic that without Mans invented Gods there wouldn't even be civilizations. Mans ever lasting quest to be judged by, and to appease the guy above him.
Where do Eastern and Native American (North America) traditions fall into this?
afaik, they do not have a supreme father in the sky
Originally posted by inimalistummh... i dont know how to answer this kinda angry and frustrated just thinking how i should answer this and having read your post.
Where do Eastern and Native American (North America) traditions fall into this?afaik, they do not have a supreme father in the sky
various native americans believe in a creator spirit aka the Great Spirit alias also the great maker and so and so on.. only massive difference between others is they dont try to humanize it... shamanism and animism is the foundation for many indigenous tribes in the americas up down and in between.
the soul or spirit permeates the world and all things in it.. its a concept that many religions fail to see or understand even when their own religion tries to tell them.
example:
The Holy Spirit
favorite quote:
When you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you.
Friedrich Nietzsche
German philosopher (1844 - 1900)
Split a piece of wood; I am there. Lift up the stone, and you will find me there." ... secret saying of emmanuel
Beat this.
Death: Humans need fantasy to *be* human. To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape.
Susan: With tooth fairies? Hogfathers?
Death: Yes. As practice, you have to start out learning to believe the little lies.
Susan: So we can believe the big ones?
Death: Yes. Justice, mercy, duty. That sort of thing.
Susan: They're not the same at all.
Death: You think so? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet, you try to act as if there is some ideal order in the world. As if there is some, some rightness in the universe, by which it may be judged.
Susan: But people have got to believe that, or what's the point?
Death: You need to believe in things that aren't true. How else can they become?
-From the Hogfather TV movie, based on the book by Terry Pratchett
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Beat this.Death: Humans need fantasy to *be* human. To be the place where the falling angel meets the rising ape.
Susan: With tooth fairies? Hogfathers?
Death: Yes. As practice, you have to start out learning to believe the little lies.
Susan: So we can believe the big ones?
Death: Yes. Justice, mercy, duty. That sort of thing.
Susan: They're not the same at all.
Death: You think so? Then take the universe and grind it down to the finest powder, and sieve it through the finest sieve, and then show me one atom of justice, one molecule of mercy. And yet, you try to act as if there is some ideal order in the world. As if there is some, some rightness in the universe, by which it may be judged.
Susan: But people have got to believe that, or what's the point?
Death: You need to believe in things that aren't true. How else can they become?-From the Hogfather TV movie, based on the book by Terry Pratchett
Death speaks ONLY IN CAPITALS.
Every man has some reminiscences which he would not tell to everyone, but only to his friends. He has others which he would not reveal even to his friends, but only to himself, and that in secret. But finally there are still others which a man is even afraid to tell himself, and every decent man has a considerable number of such things stored away. That is, one can even say that the more decent he is, the greater the number of such things in his mind.
-Dostoevsky