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Daredevil1
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Daredevil has also stated Cap is faster.

And Ironfist who's bordering crazy fast also stated he has never seen anyone with Cap's speed IIRC.

They both have similar feats, so those are good Slade feats.

Cap's healing is also underrated. He was pronounced dead with a bullet to the head and healed fast.

Cap took gun shots to areas of the body and kept going.

Cap recovered quickly from a Namor beat-down as Namor was impressed on how quickly he recovered.

Cap healing blocked a foreighn invader that infected everyone else including Superhumans like She-Hulk.

Cap's immune to most all diseases and filtered a poison out.

I can link all these feats later.

Captain America states he heals fast because he was built that way. Slade and Cap have both very similar feats.

Feb 27th, 2007 05:29 PM

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Although impressive with Slade playing with BG.

A. He knows BG won't kill him or his daughter for that matter.

B. Slade ended up in a bad position with a sword to his face, for his fault in toying with her. So still impressive for BG IMO.

Feb 27th, 2007 05:33 PM

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Although impressive with Slade playing with BG.

A. He knows BG won't kill him or his daughter for that matter.

B. Slade ended up in a bad position with a sword to his face, for his fault in toying with her. So still impressive for BG IMO.

Meh, I thought it was apparent that Slade wasn't worried in the least - due to his ability to STILL beat her ass. Even with a sword to his nose.

Also; Daredevil has stated Cap is faster...faster than whom? Himself? That's no big feat - Daredevil isn't superhuman.

Iron Fist's declaration is quite a bit more impressive, but still nothing slade-level.

Also; taking gun shots and still going is next to nothing. Everyone does that. Action movies, comics, cartoons, EVERYONE does that.

Hell, look at how many bullets the punisher has taken and kept going! No one is comparing HIM to slade.

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Daredevil has only stated Cap was faster than him in running speed. Unless Daredevil1 and Soljer are talking about another instance?

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Hell, look at how many bullets the punisher has taken and kept going! No one is comparing HIM to slade.

Punisher has taken at least 40 rounds straight into the chest, point blank, and still went going like nothing? roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Also; Daredevil has stated Cap is faster...faster than whom? Himself? That's no big feat - Daredevil isn't superhuman.

Batgirl isn't superhuman either so by your logic in BG saying Slade is faster is no big feat.

Feb 27th, 2007 05:55 PM

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Punisher has taken at least 40 rounds straight into the chest, point blank, and still went going like nothing?

When did Captain America take fourty rounds point blank? confused

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Iron Fist's declaration is quite a bit more impressive, but still nothing slade-level.

Not really since DD is as fast or faster then Danny IMO. There both pretty close when it comes down to it.

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Meh, I thought it was apparent that Slade wasn't worried in the least - due to his ability to STILL beat her ass. Even with a sword to his nose.

Were did Slade beat her ass? The fight stopped and Slade let her daughter fight her.

Feb 27th, 2007 05:58 PM

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Captain America fought a Skrull that took shots from Thing

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Batgirl isn't superhuman either so by your logic in BG saying Slade is faster is no big feat.

Well, good point - using my own logic against me.

However, the gap between Daredevil and Captain America is not nearly as large as it (obviously) is between Batgirl and Slade.

Captain America would, in my opinion, beat Daredevil for a majority. However, he would NOT be able to 'toy' with him. He'd have to take Matt seriously, no doubt.

Also; Green Arrow is quite a formidable combatant, and is in the running for one of the best hand to hand fighters in DC. He's also no slouch in speed, especially when looking at some of his combat feats.

However - he might as well have been standing still when compared to Slade.

Do you honestly think that Captain America would be able to move so fast as to make the Green Arrow immobile?

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When did Captain America take fourty rounds point blank?

Cap has never done so to my knowledge but he has taken worse like being inside a nuclear microwave.

And taken a bullet straight to the head to the point that he's prounouced dead and heals back completely in the Cap/Falcon run.

Feb 27th, 2007 06:01 PM

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Not really since DD is as fast or faster then Danny IMO. There both pretty close when it comes down to it.

Were did Slade beat her ass? The fight stopped and Slade let her daughter fight her.

Daredevil and Danny are on comparable terms, normally.

But when Danny amps with chi, he begins to outstrip Matt in ANY department - strength, speed, or otherwise.

Also; I never said he DID beat her ass, just that he COULD. And, hence, was not worried about the sword she levelled at him.

I mean, imagine a four year old pointing a stick at you. You could chase him around, be chased, toy with him, play with him, but if he corners you and points that stick at you....

Are you really going to sweat it? erm

. You could still snatch it from him, break it in half, and then break HIM in half.

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Cap has never done so to my knowledge but he has taken worse like being inside a nuclear microwave.

And taken a bullet straight to the head to the point that he's prounouced dead and heals back completely in the Cap/Falcon run.

I'm a big Cap fan - no need to rattle off his feats to me. Being in the reactor core, and even being able to pound his way out of it with his shield was VERY impressive.

Doesn't mean he has a healing factor that'd heal 'stabs in seconds, or gunshots in a minute.'

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When did Captain America take fourty rounds point blank?

Eh, forget it. I thought you referring to my post with Slade.

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How do we know when Fist amps his speed and other stats besides strength via chi? You(Soljer) cant say hed outstrip Matt in ANY department(besides strength). That would be a false assumption. In all encounters, hes yet to best DD in departments.

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How do we know when Fist amps his speed and other stats besides strength via chi? You(Soljer) cant say hed outstrip Matt in ANY department(besides strength). That would be a false assumption. In all encounters, hes yet to best DD in departments.

Because, when the two heroes aren't paired side by side, Fist has feats that outstrip Matt's.

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Because, when the two heroes aren't paired side by side, Fist has feats that outstrip Matt's.

Besides strength, i havent seen Fist feats in speed or agility that outstrip DD's.

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It's true. The only thing Fist beats Daredevil at as far as feats are concerned is pure punching power. Other than that, Danny really doesn't have any showings that put him above Matt in any thing at all.

There's also the fact that the two have stalemated each time they've fought.

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Well, good point - using my own logic against me.

However, the gap between Daredevil and Captain America is not nearly as large as it (obviously) is between Batgirl and Slade.

Captain America would, in my opinion, beat Daredevil for a majority. However, he would NOT be able to 'toy' with him. He'd have to take Matt seriously, no doubt.

Also; Green Arrow is quite a formidable combatant, and is in the running for one of the best hand to hand fighters in DC. He's also no slouch in speed, especially when looking at some of his combat feats.

However - he might as well have been standing still when compared to Slade.

Do you honestly think that Captain America would be able to move so fast as to make the Green Arrow immobile?

Cap speed had Beast questioning were Cap went. Green Arrow doesn't have superhuman speed like your Daredevil/Batgirl logic.

Feb 28th, 2007 04:03 AM

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Besides strength, i havent seen Fist feats in speed or agility that outstrip DD's.

Agreed plus DD is much more skilled in pressure-point fighting imo.

DD's strength feats are also pretty impressive. Ironfist so called chi amp feats don't in any way suggest superiority especially if you look at there fights.

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