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I think it's less than he couldn't break the shields, and more that he didn't have the time to do it. He was working against the clock and breaking the shields might have alerted Onslaught earlier or cost him the time that he needed to kill Franklin. And it does look like she's shocked abit.
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They can win, but they're more likely to lose. I hate to say it, but it's partly Sinister's fault, and partly that if Apoc is taking the time to take out Doom's shields, he's leaving himself open to get blindsided. Sinister isn't powerful enough to beat either of the other team on his own, and if he goes down early, Apoc is in trouble. I'm just not sure he can beat Doom AND Magneto at the same time. But if he manages to get one of them out fast, then Apocalypse and Sinister can win. But it's more likely Sinister is not gonna last as long.
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What ever, I stand firm with my claim. And a hypocritical world ruler.
Survival of the fitest, psh he seeks out power augmentations to reach his goals.
On his own terms, he is out classified by more then a hand full Earth 616 characters.
There is a thread dedicated specifically for Magneto vs. Apo.
And I for one think Mag>Apo.
Know weather you want to count AoA or HoM ware in both instances they have directly encounter each other. Be my guest.
The fact still reminds that going by 616 display of feats and abilities, Magneto comes out on top.
An inferior mutant who life goal was to build the ultimate mutant…is clearly not going to lose a direct match. Riiiiggghhhttt.
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Apocalypse is not interested in world domination, if anything, he's kind of the mutant Malcolm X at the moment. Before HoM, he was pleased with getting everyone to gang up and stop him, aka survival of the fittest. Now, with the mutant population at it's lowest ebb, he's trying to save mutant kind, but in his own way.
I'm not touching the mags vs. Apoc arguement right now.
AoA is an alternate universe. And no sane person counts anything in HoM as canon or valid. Considering the whole thing was the Scarlet *****'s delusions and charicatures.
Some of Magneto's feats are one time occurances and rather dubious. 2nd, Apocalypse is immortal and has unlimited stamina and incredible regeneration. If Magneto exhausts himself or gets injured, his powers weaken.
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Apocalypse is obsessed with his theory of survival of the fittest. And takes a step further to ensure that only the strong survive under his rule.
But!!! Going through power augmentation only proves that he himself is not fit to lead.
And it is well known that Apocalypse is not a true immortal. The need to swap bodies emphases his own mortality. The need to enter a chamber of rejuvenation emphasizes that there is a finite use of his powers, And there is a finite amount his body can withhold before exhaustion.
I doubt, Sinister has ever taken on a character of Nate’s calibur.
And despite his molecular control, he is neither invulnerable or immortal which is why he lost to Nates pisonically enhanced blows.
Even 616 Sinister would lose to Pre-Shaman Nate.
His immortality in the sense of long life is ambiguous because of the intervention of technology.
Non the less his immortality in this match is a non factor, simply because I doubt he will live past this encounter.
Problem with that whole scene is that Sinister was BLEEDING.
Sinister was once blown to bites by Cyclops, flesh seared from his bones and all, and turned up completely healthy months later. It was later revealed that Sinister had in fact orchestrated his own death.
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And Nate could beat Sinister with his pisonically enhanced punches so hard that he bleed to death? Riiiiiiiiiiigght!
You also forget that Apoc has a very fast healing factor.
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Mr. Sinister is not an immortal or invulnerable to attacks. Eventually he reaches his limits.
And its not like AoA Mr. Sinister, had low showing especially in ability to wield his atomic structure.
In fact he showed consistent showing to its 616 counterpart.
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Apparently not fast enough for him to willing stand up to characters of his caliber or higher on his owns means.
Here, Apoc regenerates from a puddle of ooze. Note how he’s regenerating up from liquid, his legs look more like the size of blue bones and liquid compared to his pelvic area and the holes for his legs, and parts of his body looking emaciated, the back of his head even drooping from an ooze form.
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