*sigh* read the rules, best showings. PIS fights don't count, and yes Wolverine can hang with Wendigo and even win a few as I mentioned earlier..but majority no way. The way Sabertooth defeated him was not possible and contradicted established powerset/abilities.
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Actually handbooks majority of the time underestimate a characters power-set, not over-estimate. Plus I have scans shown in the respect thread the backs up my comments not just the handbook. See the various respect threads I have created.
Huh? Obviously you don't know me or seen my other posts as basically the last 5-7 AF related vs. threads I have said the characters lose. I know what they can do and what their limits are, I have been stated not to be a senseless fanboy, but a fair fan of the characters.
Offical birthplace has yet to be revealed, but characters such as Ms.Marvel have called him Canadian
Actually what did we see? mauvais downed wendigo and wolverine did the same damned thing.
Even if wendigo was alive later he was down for an undetermined period of time.. that's not up for debate..
perhaps the wendigo would have recovered but mauvais ate his damned heart. wolverine didn't so using that as a statute of comparison isn't acceptable..
and no, you're totally assuming mauvais cut his power off.. I don't think he did.. you know since mauvais was using the power of the wendigo and even resurrected one.. I don't remember any material that states wendigo's powers are from the same source as snowbirds..
have you? I remember a long drawn out debate between you and I where you argued one of those wasn't a sneak attack.
And again I don't think it was, Wendigo can smell wolverine coming, and (well i don't remember entirely, I'll have to look at it again) didn't wolverine yell out to wendigo before the fight started? didn't wolverine hit wendigo from the front and not from behind?
He was down longer than a split second.. wolverine stood there and then talked to the mother while wendigo was unconcious... though wendigo recovered it's STILL A knock out.
No, I wasn't.
and that detracts from the feat how?
ummm i pretty sure that if you CHOOSE to leave the battlefield that's a loss... BFR is like when you get telported or punched out the arena.. you leave by choice you lose.. or at least that's how I understood it.
the same handbooks that are notoriously wrong?
even so i don't remember an invulnerability to fire being part of hispowerset. Furthermore, he's had problems with cutting edged weaponry and piercing effenciency as long as I can remember.. so there's relatively no excuse..
help of others?
Dude there were 20 friggin wendigos.. and your speculating again, while I don't think it was a long drawn out fight it could have certainly been longer than a minute.. hell, even one minute against 20 wendigos is impressive.. i don'trecall you thinking otherwise when sas was holding off those wendi-beasts in wolverine 172.
Handbooks-notoriously wrong
and - Exactly what have we seen from that level of durability?
Herc can take shots from thor but bone claws put him down.
Thor can take shots from hulk but bullets knock him out?
Diana has to block bullets and blades.
Again wendigo's entire history he's been suseptable to being pierced.. being pounded by brute and concussive force is another matter entirely.
long enough to have a full fledged conversation with her alter ego and yet that logic doesn't apply to the wild thing issue?
In any case, that was precisely my point. they were fighting eachother while she was out, it's not up for debate.. in spite of wolverine claiming he didn't want to solo wendigo he did.. and he was doing fine.
They didn't ignore anything to wendigo as a fact.. the only thing highly suspect was sas' injuries.. that's it.
given wendigo's embarrassing history against a guy who's sabretooth's inferior.. hardly just isn't the word here.
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Sabretooth defeated him by clawing and biting the shit out of him.. wolverine's beat him by clawing him MULTIPLE TIMES.. it's not up for debate that sabretooth beating him that way is both possible and plausible...
and it wasn't a PIS fight, it contradicted nothing but your own assumptions of the character. It isn't proof positive to PIS either.
I wouldn't think Wolverine could win the majority either.. but you know.... he kinda.. HAS.
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No he was dead, Mauvais ripped out his heart killing him as noted and Mauvais would know as he knows all about the Gods of the Artic and hates them. He brought the dead Wendigo back to life, and in his bio in the handbook states he killed it.
Mauvais directly stated it in the comic, as he said the Gods created the Wendigo. The Gods created Snowbird and both get the same power source said in Marvel Preview and in Wolverine.
No I said the first was a sneak attack and the second fight I said Wolverine was looking for Sasquatch and knew he was expecting a fight and then you replied after that. You would think he would smell him, but he didn't. He didn't even know he was there, until he charged at him when he was holding the female about to take a bite out of her. Yes, Wolverine yelled while he was in mid-air and Wendigo quickly looked at him, but was still holding the leg of the female and Wolverine went berserk.
Exageration on my behave, as it was only one panel and then the next Wolverine got attacked and knocked out by Wendigo. I never said it wasn't
Errr..confused as it's a rather impressive feat for Wendigo as he was taking it to both the 2 power houses.
Maybe, but isn't made clear enough so I can't say for certain.
Well considering he was shrugging off E-M blasts from Guardian where one actually killed Sasquatch his durability is high up. As noted nothing Alpha Flight or Wolverine did seem to phase him
No there wasn't, exageration on my behave but it certainly wasn't long. I have posted the fight in the Wendigo respect thread. Well considering who Sasquatch is, and that Mauvais is actually afraid of the Great Beasts how is that not impressive? and the fact Puck mentioned Sasquatch life was in danger.
Except even recently Talisman vouched for Wendigo concering his in She Hulk #16.
Bad writing, as even a brick has knocked out Silver Surfer and a car driving has collided and winded Thor. Diana isn't as physically durable as them.
Brute force can do it, but if you look at what it takes to put down Wendigo for an extended amount of period
Actually, we have no idea how long thought conversations take. As shown in DC/Marvel even psychics can download a great deal of information or talk to others in a split second. Hell, I even had dreams that seemed like they have gone on for years, but well of course was only a short span.
Huh? I'm not debating that, as I said we don't know how long they were fighting for. Once again we don't know how well Wolverine did solo as we didn't see them fighting.
and Wendigo dying, as I even read in a recent Sabertooth bio stating he in fact killed it. I will see if I can dig it up
Embarassing? Wolverine has always needed help to fight him.
If I remember correctly this was Sabertooth pre adamintium upgrade so normal claws and bite marks are going to do jack all.
Considering Wendigo's many other apperances, yeah doesn't mesh well.
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I hate that! He BEAT hulk in there first encounter!!!
