Originally posted by Mr ParkerNo, a true Batman fan would acknowledge the first attempts made at bringing in Batman movies, and would accept that without them(And Batman and Robin's failure at the Box Office 10 years ago), there wouldn't have been a Batman Begins at all.
a true Batman fan would want all the batman movies except Begins Burned. 😛
That and a true Batman fan would suck it up and accept the fact that there were Batman movies before Begins, and would quit bitching about them for once.
However somw things in them were inaccurate, they were, overall, great films, and still are even now. Well, except Batman and Robin, of course.
Originally posted by Spartan ll
No, a true Batman fan would acknowledge the first attempts made at bringing in Batman movies, and would accept that without them(And Batman and Robin's failure at the Box Office 10 years ago), there wouldn't have been a Batman Begins at all.That and a true Batman fan would suck it up and accept the fact that there were Batman movies before Begins, and would quit bitching about them for once.
However somw things in them were inaccurate, they were, overall, great films, and still are even now. Well, except Batman and Robin, of course.
I agree with all of that except I think Batman Forever sucked.
Originally posted by Spartan ll
No, a true Batman fan would acknowledge the first attempts made at bringing in Batman movies, and would accept that without them(And Batman and Robin's failure at the Box Office 10 years ago), there wouldn't have been a Batman Begins at all.That and a true Batman fan would suck it up and accept the fact that there were Batman movies before Begins, and would quit bitching about them for once.
However somw things in them were inaccurate, they were, overall, great films, and still are even now. Well, except Batman and Robin, of course.
AGAIN,a true batman fan would not accept those crapfest Burton/shumacher batman movies.how many times do i got to repeat that? 🙄 thats living in fantasy world saying that without them,there woul never have been a Batman Begins at all.that is so hysterical when you say they were great films when they are crapfest films that Burton should be shot for. 😆 😆
Originally posted by Mr ParkerWhy? Just because you say so? Please. Not everyone is as blind as you. And you wouldn't have to repeat it at all if you would stop blinding yourself. And yes, the Burton/Shumacher movies ARE responsible for BB. It inspired WB to wake up and take Batman back to his darker roots after Batman and Robin(Part of the Burton/Shumacher films, if I remember correctly), and that therefore proves that if WB and Shumacher hadn't screwed up, BB would never have existed. And yes, the Burton Batman movies were good, otherwise Batman 89 wouldn't be the 5th Box Office hit of all time, would it?
AGAIN,a true batman fan would not accept those crapfest Burton/shumacher batman movies.how many times do i got to repeat that? 🙄 thats living in fantasy world saying that without them,there woul never have been a Batman Begins at all.that is so hysterical when you say they were great films when they are crapfest films that Burton should be shot for. 😆 😆
Originally posted by Spartan ll
Why? Just because you say so? Please. Not everyone is as blind as you. And you wouldn't have to repeat it at all if you would stop blinding yourself. And yes, the Burton/Shumacher movies ARE responsible for BB. It inspired WB to wake up and take Batman back to his darker roots after Batman and Robin(Part of the Burton/Shumacher films, if I remember correctly), and that therefore proves that if WB and Shumacher hadn't screwed up, BB would never have existed. And yes, the Burton Batman movies were good, otherwise Batman 89 wouldn't be the 5th Box Office hit of all time, would it?
So we should accept them because they were so shitty they made WB make a good Batman movie? No. Just no.
No, it was not good. Crappy dialogue, retarded villains, and just because it made money doesn't make it good. By your logic, N'Sync is one of the best bands EVER because they were awarded so many times by idiot adolescent girls.
Originally posted by RocasAtollActually, it was because Batman and Robin was so shitty. I accept them because without the failure of that ine film, BB wouldn't exist. And that is true.
So we should accept them because they were so shitty they made WB make a good Batman movie? No. Just no.No, it was not good. Crappy dialogue, retarded villains, and just because it made money doesn't make it good. By your logic, N'Sync is one of the best bands EVER because they were awarded so many times by idiot adolescent girls.
Guess your the only one that thinks so. I thought they all performed good(Except BF and B&R). And how is the Joker, Catwoman and the Penguin(Albeit not comic accurate) retarded villains? I'd have to say complex more than retarded. Nope. I hate N'Sync. But we're comparing a crappy band that appealed to adolescent, hormone raging teen girls to a higly successful Batman movie. Though sometimes it DOES all depend on the overall favor of the people watching these films does it not? Poor word of mouth aswell as no people going back to the movie a second or third time sometimes DOES judge how good a film is. Take Battlefield Earth, for instance. Think of how millions more people wouldve seen it had there been no poor word of mouth of it on how crappy it was.
I'm not forcing my opinion down you throat, I'm just taking a wider approach to it. If you don't want to see it my way, then fine.
Originally posted by RocasAtoll
So we should accept them because they were so shitty they made WB make a good Batman movie? No. Just no.No, it was not good. Crappy dialogue, retarded villains, and just because it made money doesn't make it good. By your logic, N'Sync is one of the best bands EVER because they were awarded so many times by idiot adolescent girls.
yep looks like were suppose to accept them because they were so shitty.yeah according to HIS logic,the phantom menace star wars movie was the best star wars movie,better than empire strikes back which most fans and critics agree is the best star wars movie.but according to HIS logic,phantom menace is a much better star wars movie because it made much more money at the box office. 😆 😆 these keaton/Burton lovers kill me with their seriously flawed logic everytime they desperately try to prove those pathetic shitty Burton Batman movies were great movies. 😆 😆 😂 🤣 😆
its funny that they always get so desperate to prove that its not shitty by using box office numbers. 😆 guess the phantom menace star wars movie is about the greatest movie ever made since its like number 5 box office wise.
Originally posted by Mr ParkerI wouldn't base Phantom Menace as an example, considering it was the first SW movie in 10 years, and everyone was hyped to hell for it just for it being Star Wars. And I do agree that Empire is the better movie. I would call your argument more flawed than mine, considering you're basing your opinion as fact by trying to force it down our throats while I'm just showing how good a movie was. That and considering it won two Oscars, that pretty much sums it up. Either way, there's no clear winner here, since it's all a matter of opinion.
yep looks like were suppose to accept them because they were so shitty.yeah according to HIS logic,the phantom menace star wars movie was the best star wars movie,better than empire strikes back which most fans and critics agree is the best star wars movie.but according to HIS logic,phantom menace is a much better star wars movie because it made much more money at the box office. 😆 😆 these keaton/Burton lovers kill me with their seriously flawed logic everytime they desperately try to prove those pathetic shitty Burton Batman movies were great movies. 😆 😆 😂 🤣 😆its funny that they always get so desperate to prove that its not shitty by using box office numbers. 😆 guess the phantom menace star wars movie is about the greatest movie ever made since its like number 5 box office wise.
And while I do agree on BB being the better movie, I, and I'm sure many others, still enjoy B 89.
Originally posted by Spartan ll
Why? Just because you say so? Please. Not everyone is as blind as you. And you wouldn't have to repeat it at all if you would stop blinding yourself. And yes, the Burton/Shumacher movies ARE responsible for BB. It inspired WB to wake up and take Batman back to his darker roots after Batman and Robin(Part of the Burton/Shumacher films, if I remember correctly), and that therefore proves that if WB and Shumacher hadn't screwed up, BB would never have existed. And yes, the Burton Batman movies were good, otherwise Batman 89 wouldn't be the 5th Box Office hit of all time, would it?
wow your desperately grasping at straws here. you and me both know your full of B.S saying that I am the only one saying so.No they are shitty because the wrath for these movies has been present big time amongst batman fans over the years since that dreadful day in 1989 when Burton disgraced the batman comics wth his pitiful Batman movie. 🙄 your so desperate to prove that your not full of crap by making up lies that Batman 89 is 5th at the box office.got news for you ,its not even ranked in the top 10 box office hits of all time.wow you really resort to desperate measures when your losing an argument and cant do the mature thing and just acknowledge you were defeated.that being said,since your incapable of that maturity,have fun talking to yourself.i dont waste my time with people who when losing an argument,they cant simply do the mature thing and admit they were defeated and instead goes to desperate measures and makes things up. 😆
Originally posted by Mr ParkerIn your opinion, maybe. But last time I checked, your opinion doesn't count as fact, does it? And no, I haven't been defeated. ANd neither have you, for that matter, cause as I said, peoples opinions are different, and as long as they are, there is no 'winner' or 'loser'.
wow your desperately grasping at straws here. you and me both know your full of B.S saying that I am the only one saying so.No they are shitty because the wrath for these movies has been present big time amongst batman fans over the years since that dreadful day in 1989 when Burton disgraced the batman comics wth his pitiful Batman movie. 🙄 your so desperate to prove that your not full of crap by making up lies that Batman 89 is 5th at the box office.got news for you ,its not even ranked in the top 10 box office hits of all time.wow you really resort to desperate measures when your losing an argument and cant do the mature thing and just acknowledge you were defeated.that being said,since your incapable of that maturity,have fun talking to yourself.i dont waste my time with people who when losing an argument,they cant simply do the mature thing and admit they were defeated and instead goes to desperate measures and makes things up. 😆
You sure are getting worked up over a bunch of movies. Care to explain why I and many others are not entitled to our opinions?
Originally posted by Spartan ll
I wouldn't base Phantom Menace as an example, considering it was the first SW movie in 10 years, and everyone was hyped to hell for it just for it being Star Wars. And I do agree that Empire is the better movie. I would call your argument more flawed than mine, considering you're basing your opinion as fact by trying to force it down our throats while I'm just showing how good a movie was. That and considering it won two Oscars, that pretty much sums it up. Either way, there's no clear winner here, since it's all a matter of opinion.And while I do agree on BB being the better movie, I, and I'm sure many others, still enjoy B 89.
you really cripple your arguments big time.the thing is your NOT showing how good a movie it was. 🙄 the phantom menace is a perfect example of how seriously flawed your logic is because just like the phantom menace,people were hyped to the extremes to see batman because their had been talk for several years of bringing batman to the screen.Now that they finally got their wish,him being the extremely popular character he is,of course the movie was going to make tons of money because of the name batman alone. 🙄 you need to look in the mirror cause if anything,your just as guility of shoving your opinion down as fact as well trying to prove it was great when you have no proof of that. 🙄 Like I said,im done wasting my time with you watching you cripple your arguments and the ffact that you got to make up incorrect figures to desperately try to win your argument.bye bye.