Okay Im done with this thread.Since SOME people like the thread starter of this thread cant accept it that there are thousands out there who have hated the Burton movies for years since the movies FIRST movie came out back in 89,that the hate is NOT new- just look at the people that came on here and said so,I am going to have to bring back my FAVORITE thread ever created in the batman section.the one called -Okay Tim Burton is a moron when it comes to batman. because the thread title of that thread is so very true and accurate. 😄
I never said Schumacher wasnt a moron when it comes to batman.I only said that Batman Forever is the only Batman movie of the Burton/Schumacher Batman movies that I can tolerate.Like i said,him casting O'donnel as Robin was just as much moronic and as stupid as it was for Burton to cast Keaton as batman.I have ALWAYS said that from day one about Schumacher.No I can accept it,its just when someone comes around here like this thread starter did and make false claims that just because people hate the burton batman movies like they obviously do,that the hate is new just because they liked batman begins so much,well they need to be told they are off their rocker making redicules threads like this one that the hate for the batman movies is just new when in fact,several thousands of batman fans such as me,harvey dent,bakerboy,scythe and rufus firefly have ALWAYS hated the batman movies since they were FIRST made back in 89. dont know where on earth this thread starter came up with that absurd idea that the hate for the burton batman movies is new when it has ALWAYS been there by thousands of batman fans. 🙄
Like i said,Im done on this thread,anybody who wants to defend the burtn batman movies should go over to that thread that I brought back- 😄 by my man harvey dent called-Okay Tim Burton is a moron when it comes to batman movies.I just had to bring that thread back for people like the thread starter of this thread. 😄
It made the most money because it was the FIRST batman movie and batman is such an extremely popular comicbook character.By THAT logic,you got to say Batman Forever was better than Batman Returns was since it made more money at the box office than Returns did and where is all this nonsense of just because "I" hated keaton that the movie stank coming from? the truth is "thousands" of batman fans back then hated the choice of keaton as batman back then as they STILL do now.I could pull up many links of people that have come on here in the past in the batman section and said the same thing,that they hated keaton as the choice for batman for not even coming close to fitting the role.ask any batman fan if they hated Bale because he did not look the part at all.I guarantee you they may not have liked him very much but they cant use the answer that he didnt fit the role.that just holds no water.where hating keaton as Bruce wayne/batman for not even looking the part IS a legitimate gripe that batman fans have.touche. 😄 Im done.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
It made the most money because it was the FIRST batman movie and batman is such an extremely popular comicbook character.By THAT logic,you got to say Batman Forever was better than Batman Returns was since it made more money at the box office than Returns did and where is all this nonsense of just because "I" hated keaton that the movie stank coming from? the truth is "thousands" of batman fans back then hated the choice of keaton as batman back then as they STILL do now.I could pull up many links of people that have come on here in the past in the batman section and said the same thing,that they hated keaton as the choice for batman for not even coming close to fitting the role.ask any batman fan if they hated Bale because he did not look the part at all.I guarantee you they may not have liked him very much but they cant use the answer that he didnt fit the role.that just holds no water.where hating keaton as Bruce wayne/batman for not even looking the part IS a legitimate gripe that batman fans have.touche. 😄 Im done.
I thought you were done before? Please, you went and bumped an old topic, so let's continue the "everlasting argument" there...
Originally posted by Mr Parker
It made the most money because it was the FIRST batman movie and batman is such an extremely popular comicbook character.By THAT logic,you got to say Batman Forever was better than Batman Returns was since it made more money at the box office than Returns did and where is all this nonsense of just because "I" hated keaton that the movie stank coming from?
I dont know where the thread starter gets the idea the hate for Batman 89 is new.I have always hated that movie since I first saw it several years ago mainly because of michael keaton and how he was so horribly cast in that role not even coming close to fitting the role and how most the movie was so boring.I myself have always preferred Batman Forever the most of the burton/schumacher Batman movies since Kilmer at least looked the part and it wasnt anywhere near as boring as Batman 89 was.Much more action in it.I agree with the people that have said Batman 89 is a disgraceful Batman movie.Batman Begins is easliy the only good Batman movie.Better than all the previous 4 combined easily.
Kilmer at least LOOKED the part? His performance was so wooden they might as well have had Pinnochio playing Batman. That looked the part crap is really shallow IMO. I didn't think TM looked the part to play Peter Parker but he still convinced me in the end and I think Michael Keaton had a similar effect on the majority of audiences as well.
That's a great point...
I'm sick of all the "He at least looked the part" crap... Well, he may of looked the part, but he obviously couldn't play the part... Keaton may not have "looked the part", but he sure as hell played the part... It's been said a million times, Bale is Bruce Wayne, Keaton is Batman... I can admit that Keaton's Wayne was not what I'd think of him to be, but you can't say that his Batman was crap just because he "didn't look the part"... This may not be a good example but, last time I checked, Detective Flass was a big, powerful guy with a clean shaved face... Mark Boone Jr. (I think that's his name) didn't look the part of Flass, but he played the part well and he convinced you that he was Flass... That's exactly what Keaton did...
And I remember a while back, (I think 2004) someone named Punkyhermy and the rest of the KMC Forums Burton haters hated Batman 89 because it had TOO MUCH ACTION, yet now KMC Forums Burton haters hates it because it had TOO LITTLE ACTION... WTF? Which one is it?
It's just a bunch of ridiculousness to me. Maybe Batman 1989 is not the best Batman movie ever but it certainly is not garbage it was an entertaining well made film and maybe it did not live up to every person's fantasy of what Batman is but not even Nolan's film did that for everyone. If you judge the film on its merits alone it had great performances, sets and actions and all around was a fairly enjoyable summer movie. And I personally like Keaton's Batman better than I like Bale's but so what? I think Batman Begins was on point with source material but lacked creativity BIG TIME and I hate the way they raped Ras and Rachel Dawes was the ****ing dumbest character they could have come up with but was it still a good movie even though I don't like a few specific elements? Yes it was. And the same applies to Batman 1989. You may have beef with certain things but that doesn't automatically make it a shit movie just because it wasn't who you thought Batman should be.
Originally posted by Il.Mozalini
I can deny it actually. Batman(89) was a complete, 100% joke. The story-line will disappoint anyone over the age of 11. I guess anyone with ADD, or an insanely short attention span would find Batman Begins boring. But...It's actually a STORY!!! Not a ****ing joke like the 89 batman.
stands up and gives a cheering ovation.great post my man,well said.bravo bravo. 👆 I somehow overlooked this post of yours and had to come on and congratuate you with such a great post.you got great taste and are a true batman fan.
Originally posted by Il.Mozalini
Well, I think the fight scenes were filmed that way on purpose to give it a sense of realism. So it seems sort of chaotic, like a real fight would be. I think in this instance the shaky angles are a good choice...but that's a 100% matter of opinion.As for the joke thing. The art gallery scene is completely unwatchable for me. It makes me cringe more than anything I've ever seen in my life.
The gross of a movie means almost nothing to me. A lot of mediocre films make tons of money. And Batman is just about that...mediocre.
As for the reviews...I'm sure I could bring up some ecstatic reviews for 'Little Man' or 'Scary Movie', but that doesn't attest to the quality of the film.
Anything can get a sequel when it makes enough money...case in point: Fantastic Four.
very well said again.glad to have you on MY side.you really know your stuff my man. 🤘
Originally posted by ivebeendepped43
I dont know where the thread starter gets the idea the hate for Batman 89 is new.I have always hated that movie since I first saw it several years ago mainly because of michael keaton and how he was so horribly cast in that role not even coming close to fitting the role and how most the movie was so boring.I myself have always preferred Batman Forever the most of the burton/schumacher Batman movies since Kilmer at least looked the part and it wasnt anywhere near as boring as Batman 89 was.Much more action in it.I agree with the people that have said Batman 89 is a disgraceful Batman movie.Batman Begins is easliy the only good Batman movie.Better than all the previous 4 combined easily.
Hello. I have always loved the Batman movies. Keaton's Batman was good. It needed a lot more than what was shown, but I never foughted it forit. As for Schumacher's versions, he just hit gold with Batman Forever, a lavish comic book version that was great, but yet way too over the top with Jim Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones, who by the way wasn't a good choice for Two-Face, but played the part well. As for Bale, he is absolutely without a shadow of a doubt the best Batman/Bruce Wayne. Look forward to The Dark Knight.
Originally posted by Mr Parker
stands up and gives a cheering ovation.great post my man,well said.bravo bravo. 👆 I somehow overlooked this post of yours and had to come on and congratuate you with such a great post.you got great taste and are a true batman fan.
No offense, but you have to be one of the most biased people I've ever seen post... You talk about true Batman fans when YOU can't just accept Burton's films for what they are, FILMS! They're not crap! Tim Burton and the rest of the crew put a lot of time and effort to bring a vision to life. The crew made a film that brought Batman cinema back to the dark roots of the character. (until Schumacher took over and took it in a different, lighter direction) They are not the "Definitive Batman Adaptation" and they never will be... but they are entertaining, and I'll be damned if someone tells me that I'm not a real Batman fan just because I find them to be entertaining and good films!
If I told someone that likes the old Adam West Batman that they aren't a real Batman fan, would I be right? Absolutely not! And no offense, but you have no proof or right to say someone isn't a real fan. A real Batman fan would accept any form of the character and would not bash it into the ground, because a real fan would see that it is the same character they know and love, only with the visions of someone else... Everyone has there own perfect Batman, and you have to accept that, and try to find the good in it, or you really aren't a true fan... That's why I don't bash B&R or BF anymore, I just say "B&R is a comedy and BF is decent"
Heck, you even let ORGANIC WEBBING get in the way of you enjoying a Spider-Man film, but that's for a different time and place...
If I offended anyone in anyway, I'm very, deeply sorry... But I got angry and sick of all this garbage about "true fans" and "looking the part" and etc. etc. etc.
And I hope that sounds intelligent...
Originally posted by Bat Dude
No offense, but you have to be one of the most biased people I've ever seen post... You talk about true Batman fans when YOU can't just accept Burton's films for what they are, FILMS! They're not crap! Tim Burton and the rest of the crew put a lot of time and effort to bring a vision to life. The crew made a film that brought Batman cinema back to the dark roots of the character. (until Schumacher took over and took it in a different, lighter direction) They are not the "Definitive Batman Adaptation" and they never will be... but they are entertaining, and I'll be damned if someone tells me that I'm not a real Batman fan just because I find them to be entertaining and good films!If I told someone that likes the old Adam West Batman that they aren't a real Batman fan, would I be right? Absolutely not! And no offense, but you have no proof or right to say someone isn't a real fan. A real Batman fan would accept any form of the character and would not bash it into the ground, because a real fan would see that it is the same character they know and love, only with the visions of someone else... Everyone has there own perfect Batman, and you have to accept that, and try to find the good in it, or you really aren't a true fan... That's why I don't bash B&R or BF anymore, I just say "B&R is a comedy and BF is decent"
Heck, you even let ORGANIC WEBBING get in the way of you enjoying a Spider-Man film, but that's for a different time and place...
If I offended anyone in anyway, I'm very, deeply sorry... But I got angry and sick of all this garbage about "true fans" and "looking the part" and etc. etc. etc.
And I hope that sounds intelligent...
Great words. Co-signed.