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His will prevented him from merging with the lifestream, he wouldresist the reaver. CLoud's Omnislash did 0 damage to his spirit, it only destoyed the Jenova matter. Sephiroth would just kill Kain and Raziel while Cloud distracted them. Sephiroth's spirit is an unbeatable existence.

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let me guess, it owns Galactus with a stare while holding LT in a headlock and pre-ret beyonder in his toes...right

Kain stops time and stores helpless Sephiroth in the blade, he wont even flinch before kain exacts the move....or he could just BFR sephiroth for giggles, send him to another dimension then Sephiroth loses.

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AC Sephiroth doesn't have a head to cut off. Besides, even if we're keeping eveyone's invincibility on, either Cloud or Seph could just use a time materia to Stop Kain and Raziel, then just leave them there.

Kain can do it faster than them. Even without invincibility, they are still far beyond Cloud and Seph.

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Kain stops time and stores helpless Sephiroth in the blade, he wont even flinch before kain exacts the move....or he could just BFR sephiroth for giggles, send him to another dimension then Sephiroth loses.

Once again. Sephiroth resisted the will of the godess and all of the planet's spirit energy. The soulreaver couldn't take his soul. Sephiroth and Cloud cast silence, stop and frog, leaving Raziel and Kain helpless and unable to do anything.

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Even without invincibility, they are still far beyond Cloud and Seph.

You must be joking. Without their invulnerability they aren't much of a threat to Sephiroth, the time stop thing is the only thing in their favor, and with materia Seph could do it too.

Why do you hate Sephiroth so much V2D, were your parents at Nibelheim when it was razed? roll eyes (sarcastic)

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Once again. Sephiroth resisted the will of the godess and all of the planet's spirit energy. The soulreaver couldn't take his soul. Sephiroth and Cloud cast silence, stop and frog, leaving Raziel and Kain helpless and unable to do anything.

You must be joking. Without their invulnerability they aren't much of a threat to Sephiroth, the time stop thing is the only thing in their favor, and with materia Seph could do it too.

Why do you hate Sephiroth so much V2D, were your parents at Nibelheim when it was razed?

show me Seph stopping time at the speed of thought, infact show me Seph doing any major spells fast

the Goddess does not=kain, what are the Goddess' feats with soul devouring then? time stopping, mind warping?

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show me Seph stopping time at the speed of thought, infact show me Seph doing any major spells fast

Seph's magic happens as soon as he wills it to. He can cast stop at the speed of thought, trapping Kain first.

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the Goddess does not=kain, what are the Goddess' feats with soul devouring then? time stopping, mind warping?

You're right, the godess > Kain. She keeps the very planet alive and oversees all of the spirit energy. Kains devouring a few souls of Nosgoth is nothing compared to her spirit energy powers.

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Once again. Sephiroth resisted the will of the godess and all of the planet's spirit energy. The soulreaver couldn't take his soul. Sephiroth and Cloud cast silence, stop and frog, leaving Raziel and Kain helpless and unable to do anything.

You must be joking. Without their invulnerability they aren't much of a threat to Sephiroth, the time stop thing is the only thing in their favor, and with materia Seph could do it too.

Why do you hate Sephiroth so much V2D, were your parents at Nibelheim when it was razed?

1. He could still have his head cut off.

2. Time stop, decapitation. Seph=Dead.

3. I don't hate him, I like him as a character, I just dislike fanboyish overstatements like the ones you make.

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Sephiroth have great magic power, but it will not help him. In AC, Kadaj shooted magic against Cloud, and he easily dodged it.
If Cloud can do that, I believe Kain and Raziel can do the same.

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1. He could still have his head cut off.

2. Time stop, decapitation. Seph=Dead.

3. I don't hate him, I like him as a character, I just dislike fanboyish overstatements like the ones you make.

1. Nope, see below

2. He can't be decapitated, notice how Cloud's Omnislashs hits leave no damage when Sephiroth should have been in small pieces. Slashing threough his neck wouldn't make Sephiroth's head fall off. AC Sephiroth can't be decapitated, as proven in AC.

3.No, you really seem to have a thing against him. I've never seen you support him, even in fights he obviously wins you support his opponent.

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1. the only time ive seen seph do any fast magic is when he summon the dark lifestream thing...apart from that, his magic is too slow to compare with kains or raz's
2. doesnt mean kain cant hurt him...if cloud could beat sephiroth with just a few fast slashes, than this is even more in kains favor than i thought roll eyes (sarcastic)

3. such as??

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1. His spells are all instantly cast. There is no wait time for them.

2. CLoud didn't beat him with just a few slashes, he beat him with one of the most powerful attacks on the planet that wasn't just Clopudd's strength, it was augmented with plenty of spirit energy.

3. Link versus Sephiroth he said Sephiroth wouldn't stand a chance...

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1. show me where??
2. spirit energy? it was a bloody limit break roll eyes (sarcastic)

3. ok fair enough..

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1. Where whenever Sephiroth casts a spell it doesn't have to charge up, it just hits you.

2. Its spirit energy, thats why he glows blue. Its in the AC script.

3. See, he just doesn't like Sephy

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