are Heaven/Hell side effects of humans' inability to comprehend nothingness?

Originally posted by dadudemon
The existence of nothing is still something....therefore nothing is something therefore nothing can be nothing.

Even if it means that nothing recognizes it as nothing, nothing is still something.

Nothing fails. 🙂

Also, if nothing existed for an eternity, no one would be around to say that it existed for eternity. If something could instantly appear in that nothingness...but still not break the rules of nothingness, meaning, it has a timeline perpendicular and infinitely small to the reality of nothingness, nothingness wouldn't be interrupted...indeed, an infinite number of perpendicular timelines could exist as far as nothingness's eternal perspective is concerned. In fact, an infinite numver of timelines could extend, perpendicular, but parallel to the nothingness timeline. Furthermore and infinite number of timelines could exist on one of the infinite timelines that exists on one of the time lines that exists on the nothingness time line. It could go on to an infinite number of timelines for each time lines...sort of like a fractal. Whose to say the dimensional limitations of the time lines? Do they have to be confined to the 1d space I have defined? NO!!! We could compound this nothingness by including the presence of an 11 dimensional set of physics.

😆 Nothingness would not have time or space. Nothingness would not have dimensions or physics. Nothingness would not have anything.

why not? Just the word, NOTHING, has something in it.

Originally posted by debbiejo
why not? Just the word, NOTHING, has something in it.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
I am an Atheist once you die that is it, nothing after that, so you best make the most of what you have, and do what you can while you have the chance, make the most of life and everyday, your only here once and that's a fact.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
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Originally posted by Mindship
What do you mean by nothingness? By heaven and hell? While I'm tempted to go into the possible transcendent aspects of this, even just psychologically, I am intrigued by the question. For if "Nothingness" is the absence of sensory input, then the brain will create its own input. And whether "Heaven" or "Hell" materializes I would say depends on what's going on in that person's unconscious.

thats a cool idea. I thought i heard somewhere, a theory about afterlife saying something like, as you are dying, your brain begins to go into a dream like sequence. Like, you may experience some sort of afterlife but it is a dream type experience and, like dreams, it happens extremely fast relative to normal time. That is, you experience what seems like a very long time but really its just the time between when you lose conciousness before you die and when your brain actually ceases to function.

What your desires............ 📖

Along with them and imagination, they will make the real happen. The first step in creation is thought.........take care in your thoughts.

Thoughts = intentions = actions= equal manifestations.....

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something happens when you die, but you are never you after you die. That's the definition of die.

Once you die, you die end of story, case closed...............

maybe heaven n hell r merely creations to compound man's need 2 believe that good deeds n livin a prescribed good life has it's reward while bad deeds don't go unpunished

Originally posted by Kumar
its true, it doesn't hurt to live as a good person. However, i'm sceptical when you say you can comprehend nothingness. Can you really or do you just agknowledge it? Can you really comprehend not existing? Not ever being consious of anything ever again? No thoughts, no sensation, not emotion. Its a tough concept to get one's head around.

We cannot go around with out any emotions, or thoughts, etc that is one of things that makes up. Now, as for the Heaven/Hell thing (not everyone has to agree with me) I believe the exsits, which is why I am doing my very best to be as good and as faithful as I can be.

Peace,
Amanda

Originally posted by Cornlady
We cannot go around with out any emotions, or thoughts, etc that is one of things that makes up. Now, as for the Heaven/Hell thing (not everyone has to agree with me) I believe the exsits, which is why I am doing my very best to be as good and as faithful as I can be.

Peace,
Amanda

Why do you need a threat to be a good person? Can't you be your very best without the threat of a hell?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Why do you need a threat to be a good person? Can't you be your very best without the threat of a hell?

Of course, I would be good; even if there was no Hell.

Peace,
Amanda

Originally posted by Cornlady
Of course, I would be good; even if there was no Hell.

Peace,
Amanda

Then why believe in hell?

Hell could not be a nothingness. There is something there. It's not a place of somethingness IMHO, but still is real.

Welcome to hell, it seems that for you who believe in this notion, that no matter what you do you shall go to hell in some way.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The existence of nothing is still something....therefore nothing is something therefore nothing can be nothing.

Even if it means that nothing recognizes it as nothing, nothing is still something.

Nothing fails. 🙂

Also, if nothing existed for an eternity, no one would be around to say that it existed for eternity. If something could instantly appear in that nothingness...but still not break the rules of nothingness, meaning, it has a timeline perpendicular and infinitely small to the reality of nothingness, nothingness wouldn't be interrupted...indeed, an infinite number of perpendicular timelines could exist as far as nothingness's eternal perspective is concerned. In fact, an infinite numver of timelines could extend, perpendicular, but parallel to the nothingness timeline. Furthermore and infinite number of timelines could exist on one of the infinite timelines that exists on one of the time lines that exists on the nothingness time line. It could go on to an infinite number of timelines for each time lines...sort of like a fractal. Whose to say the dimensional limitations of the time lines? Do they have to be confined to the 1d space I have defined? NO!!! We could compound this nothingness by including the presence of an 11 dimensional set of physics.

All you have done is to show how unstable nothingness is.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
All you have done is to show how unstable nothingness is.

I have shown the nothing truly doesn't exist...at least from a philosophical all encompassing point of view. One can NEVER be certain that nothing is truly nothing. Since there is no way to test whether I am right or wrong, at this point, that point stands that there is truly not something that can be qualified as perfect nothingness. You can set absolutes or limits to defining what nothing is, but in the end, that is just a restricted perspective.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I have shown the nothing truly doesn't exist...at least from a philosophical all encompassing point of view. One can NEVER be certain that nothing is truly nothing. Since there is no way to test whether I am right or wrong, at this point, that point stands that there is truly not something that can be qualified as perfect nothingness. You can set absolutes or limits to defining what nothing is, but in the end, that is just a restricted perspective.

Nothingness dose not exist. It cannot exist, because if it did, it would be something. All that shows is that nothingness is unstable.

If you took everything in the universe, including space and time, and placed it into a singularity, what would be outside the singularity?