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Is "Blackest Night" and the upcomming crisis the same thing?
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The big, irritating difference is DC is using all these Crisis events to f*ck with their history & timelines - AGAIN. Marvel may be forced into this someday, but at least their events are just charting for the present, not re-setting the past.


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Originally posted by Val
That definition is far too loose to always consider it an event.

I just fail to see how a storyline that took place in two books, both under the Green Lantern banner, is comparable to something like Infinite Crisis or Civil War which totally took over DC and Marvel's entire comic lineup.


Indeed. What issues even casually MENTIONED the war?

Green Lantern. Green Lantern Corps. A passing mention in Supergirl, and a single blue beetle tie in, no?

I could see someone calling Sinestro Corps War a Lantern 'event,' considering that it tied the continuities of both Lantern books together for several issues. I could not see them calling it a 'DC Event.'

Just like Superman and Action Comics tied together for Up, Up, and Away wasn't a DC event, though I could see someone calling it a 'Superman event.'

In other words, not an event at all. erm.


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Up, Up and Away wasn't an event because it didn't draw the collective heroes of DC together to face it. That was an arc.

I consider SC an event, in the sense that it drew the collective attention and presence of DC Earth.

It might not have been an event in the sense of it headlines every book, but it brought all the heroes together.

Just because it didn't have 50 shitty tie ins that the editors lied about in relevance, doesn't make it any less of an event.

Leastwise, not to me.


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I consider it a mini event. Especially that it leads on to countdown and the villains and it drew the entire world to it.


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Up, Up and Away wasn't an event because it didn't draw the collective heroes of DC together to face it. That was an arc.

I consider SC an event, in the sense that it drew the collective attention and presence of DC Earth.

It might not have been an event in the sense of it headlines every book, but it brought all the heroes together.

Just because it didn't have 50 shitty tie ins that the editors lied about in relevance, doesn't make it any less of an event.

Leastwise, not to me.
actually Up Up and Away did have other heroes in it. They came in to stop Luthor. So I guess thats an event too then. and the SC had the heroes in appearance. They barely did anything at all. The Green Lanterns did all the work.


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Originally posted by roughrider
The big, irritating difference is DC is using all these Crisis events to f*ck with their history & timelines - AGAIN. Marvel may be forced into this someday, but at least their events are just charting for the present, not re-setting the past.

I think you're overreacting. Infinite Crisis hardly messed with the time line in the same way the original Crisis did. The most notable change to any character's history was Superman and finding out he was in the Legion.

Meanwhile, Secret Invasion is set to invalidate a ton of Marvel history. When is the last time we saw the real Black Bolt?


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Marvel may be forced into this someday


Nah...they'll just boost another characters powers and make them have a nervous breakdown. Then they'll slowly retcon the whole event over the next 10 years.

Besides...according to this there's some reality warper inside/outside of 616 Earth controlling/compressing time in the 616 Dimension.

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Nah...they'll just boost another characters powers and make them have a nervous breakdown. Then they'll slowly retcon the whole event over the next 10 years.

Besides...according to this there's some reality warper inside/outside of 616 Earth controlling/compressing time in the 616 Dimension.

http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?...tsamuraids2.jpg


One day StanLee will regain control and decide that the last 20 years of continuity were all inside a snowglobe that FranklinRichards was playing with.


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These recent years will be remembered as the event era by fans a decade from now, similar to how we think of the early 90's in terms of big pockets and chrome covers and whatnot.


I tend to think of the 90's as the time which I never want to remember ever again stick out tongue


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Indeed. What issues even casually MENTIONED the war?

Green Lantern. Green Lantern Corps. A passing mention in Supergirl, and a single blue beetle tie in, no?


Plus five ****in' one-shot specials.


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I have a feeling Blackest Night will be used to revive shit-loads of characters, including Kal-L


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I have a feeling Blackest Night will be used to revive shit-loads of characters, including Kal-L
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Now there's a grisly and scary prospect. How many supervillains and heroes have died in the last 10 years of DC comics? Assuming IC didn't retcon things like the Rann-Thanagar war, etc.

Hell, even Apokolips and New Genesis...nm. DOTNG is going to remove those 2 from the equation. But what about Oa or Daxam? There are countless planets with genocide and millennia worth of dead bodies.

How the hell do you stop a dead man's hand? And CAN you defeat a lantern corp, that adds to it's numbers everytime they kill someone? What the f**k?


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I don't think that the ring brings the people back so much as turns them into Corp members that are zombies.


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I have a feeling Blackest Night will be used to revive shit-loads of characters, including Kal-L


Only to kill them off again the next issue.

Dear god, Blackest Night may be Didio's ultimate wet dream.

He gets to bring back anyone he wants and then kill them off again stick out tongue


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Couldn't find a proper thread for it.

Something I found in a JLI book.

This guy owns the XXX rated cinema their at. Hes a complete joke and now HES the main villain??

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Just testing their multiloader as well.


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*raises a hand to counter the point, but thinks better of it* I can't really argue against that. Black Hand was a shitty C or D lister for a long time. Back in Gl vol. 2 issue.......5 (IIRC) after Rebirth, he came back. Spectre nuked his hand, but some weird space gremlins (that spoke German for some reason........) boosted his powers. He started draining life from people and looking like a zombie, which incidently, restored his hand. Hal buried him, but.....there was some commentary, that in retrospect, foreshadows Blackest Night.

so obviously this one has been in the works awhile.


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Originally posted by Val
I think you're overreacting. Infinite Crisis hardly messed with the time line in the same way the original Crisis did. The most notable change to any character's history was Superman and finding out he was in the Legion.

Meanwhile, Secret Invasion is set to invalidate a ton of Marvel history. When is the last time we saw the real Black Bolt?


I have a feeling that in terms of retconing, One More Day will take away a lot more than Secret Invasion. Secret invasion actually looks like a good and fun story yes


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Originally posted by roughrider
The big, irritating difference is DC is using all these Crisis events to f*ck with their history & timelines - AGAIN. Marvel may be forced into this someday, but at least their events are just charting for the present, not re-setting the past.
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Okay, I admit, I'm confuse here....I thought BN and FC would be very different separate events. But looking at the solicitations for Oct.

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FINAL CRISIS: RAGE OF THE RED LANTERNS #1
Written by Geoff Johns
Art and covers by Shane Davis & Sandra Hope
The prelude to “The Blackest Night” begins here!
They come from a place of great anger and hatred. They are the Red Lanterns and they will have their revenge against the greatest Green Lantern - Sinestro. That is, unless the Guardians have theirs first.
Retailers please note: This issue will ship with two covers by Shane Davis & Sandra Hope that will ship in approximately 50/50 ratio. Please see the Previews Order Form for more information.
On sale october 15 • 40 pg, FC, $3.99 US


So if I understand correctly...BN will begin in the middle of FC?

Morrison....Johns...Didio....Me...wacko


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Okay, I admit, I'm confuse here....I thought BN and FC would be very different separate events. But looking at the solicitations for Oct.



So if I understand correctly...BN will begin in the middle of FC?

Morrison....Johns...Didio....Me...wacko


Blackest Night is the arc after Rage of the Red Lanterns.


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