Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Real Ronaldo is/was better.
Ronaldo was great in his time and it is arguable about he and zidane but ithink zidane was better due to skill, ball control,technique,intelligence and having a longer career( in which he was playing well). Ronaldo was neva the same after his inter injury
He didn't have better skill though. Or ball control. Or technique. Ronaldo was amazing. Without injuries he'd be up there with the best ever.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
He didn't have better skill though. Or ball control. Or technique. Ronaldo was amazing. Without injuries he'd be up there with the best ever.
IMO Zidane is already up there with the best ever. Ball control aside maybe maradona i dont see who could compare with him not evn ronaldo. Just watch France vs portugal Euro 2000 and youl see the type of ball control im talking about. There is a piece of chest to leg control that he performed that i still dont know how he did. After jumping up to control a particularly hard pass he chested the ball over his head and turned a full 360 degrees while on his TOES whilst still maintaning perfect balance and with his eye still on the ball proceeded to perfectly trap the ball before it hit the ground all this right infront of the bewildered defenders. Or the match against Southafrica in the 98 world cup where zidane kept the ball from 3 southAfrican playas while on one knee. I also disagree when it comes to skill and technique, i have loads of zidane vs Ronaldo vidoes though ronaldo was skillfull Zidane showed more raw skill and especially technique . Aside the normal leg overs and 360 degree turns zidane has skills that ive seen only him do. During the a la liga match against i think zaragoza or athelitico( ill have to watch the video again) zidane actually used the spin of the ball to make it go round the opposing playa not over but round him. He was in the midfield
and the ball wass passed back to him by his team mate, however there was an on rushing playa of the opposing team quite close to him. He actually used the outside of to immediately change the spin of the oncoming ball which caused it to lift into the air and spin round the oncoming playas right side while he spun round the playas left side and
trapped the ball behind him. Just one of many great displays of skill and technique from zidane. And their is his champs final goal with his left foot( weaker leg) cant forget about that.
if we're talking about the zidane/ronaldo thing...for me, ronaldo had the lightning quick acceleration and pace and could stop on a penny, change direction and completely baffle defences by doing it...zidane always seemed more composed and aware of his surroundings...i remember someone about to do a rather rash tackle on him and he simply stood there...never even glancing in the players direction...simply dragged the ball back and the defender went sliding past....then he just trotted off with the ball as if nothing happened
in terms of control...you cant reall seperate them...they just did it differently....ronaldo with pace and power and zidane with finesse
Originally posted by ultimatethor
IMO Zidane is already up there with the best ever. Ball control aside maybe maradona i dont see who could compare with him not evn ronaldo. Just watch France vs portugal Euro 2000 and youl see the type of ball control im talking about. There is a piece of chest to leg control that he performed that i still dont know how he did. After jumping up to control a particularly hard pass he chested the ball over his head and turned a full 360 degrees while on his TOES whilst still maintaning perfect balance and with his eye still on the ball proceeded to perfectly trap the ball before it hit the ground all this right infront of the bewildered defenders. Or the match against Southafrica in the 98 world cup where zidane kept the ball from 3 southAfrican playas while on one knee. I also disagree when it comes to skill and technique, i have loads of zidane vs Ronaldo vidoes though ronaldo was skillfull Zidane showed more raw skill and especially technique . Aside the normal leg overs and 360 degree turns zidane has skills that ive seen only him do. During the a la liga match against i think zaragoza or athelitico( ill have to watch the video again) zidane actually used the spin of the ball to make it go round the opposing playa not over but round him. He was in the midfield
and the ball wass passed back to him by his team mate, however there was an on rushing playa of the opposing team quite close to him. He actually used the outside of to immediately change the spin of the oncoming ball which caused it to lift into the air and spin round the oncoming playas right side while he spun round the playas left side and
trapped the ball behind him. Just one of many great displays of skill and technique from zidane.
Sounds like Bergkamp versus Newcastle.
I'm not saying Zidane wasn't great. Ronaldo at his best was greater. Effectively unstoppable.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Sounds like Bergkamp versus Newcastle.I'm not saying Zidane wasn't great. Ronaldo at his best was greater. Effectively unstoppable.
that one?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=nCEXkik6Iuk
still baffles me...genius
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Sounds like Bergkamp versus Newcastle.I'm not saying Zidane wasn't great. Ronaldo at his best was greater. Effectively unstoppable.
No problem evrybody has their own diferent opinion. In pele's opinion zidane was better though. And evn when Ronaldinho made his list he put Zidane as 1 and Ronaldo as 2 not that it really matters as they are both just opinions anyways
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bT3mG3DWA
this was one of zidanes great skills.
he was better than ronaldo for me. a more complete player
Originally posted by Deano
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bT3mG3DWAthis was one of zidanes great skills.
he was better than ronaldo for me. a more complete player
Personally i am of the same opinion. He played the game with such finesse it looked like he was floating on the field
Originally posted by jaden101
that one?still baffles me...genius
Yeah that's the one. You can embed Youtube videos- just use youtube as the tag (rather than url), and only put in the bit after the = sign.
Originally posted by ultimatethor
No problem evrybody has their own diferent opinion. In pele's opinion zidane was better though. And evn when Ronaldinho made his list he put Zidane as 1 and Ronaldo as 2 not that it really matters as they are both just opinions anyways
Yeah, but Pele put Diouf in his top 100 players.
Originally posted by Deano
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=x1bT3mG3DWAthis was one of zidanes great skills.
he was better than ronaldo for me. a more complete player
Well, many players are more complete than Cron at the moment, yet he seems to be the best in the world.
Zidane wasn't as skillful as Ronaldo.
He was a better passer, better vision, better at running a game. That he could also perform a lot of tricks doesn't make him more skillful than everyone as well.
Originally posted by jaden101
i think Saviola could have been but buckled under his own hype...all that "the next Maradona" bullshit....who can live up to that?
Though that's a big pressure for every good Argentine forward there is (Aguero, Crespo, Maxi Rodriguez, Tevez, Messi, Saviola, Palacio, Higuain, Buonanotte), his main obstacle was not being taken seriously by any team, except River Plate and Sevilla. On his second spell with Barcelona, he became an instant hero for Barça fans after like 5 matches, but Rijkaard would still not accept him.
Luckily, Argentina's national team coaches have always called him when needing a fast offensive together with Tevez and Messi.
difference between them though is Messi plays for one of the best club teams in the world...at Maradona's peak he played for Napoli and took them from mid table also-rans to league winners twice...copa Italia winners...UEFA cup winners....his national side in 86 was also relatively poor with the only other stand-out being Burruchaga
but it's early doors in his career so who knows