Deja~vu
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Devil King
How is the virus any more alive than the computer?
Interesting thought. Interesting thought. Possibly a computer has intelligent encompasses and a biological virus has primitive requirements.
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chithappens
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does anyone else feel like explaining that one person is made up of many living oragnisms?
i'm too lazy to go through all that
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Apr 24th, 2008 10:16 PM
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It's not a factual learning place of what we've been tought. Cycles and cycles within cycles and times within times...Waves and shore life...i.e. reaping and sowing..Projecting and materializing self to what is put out. It's simple actually, psychologist's teach the same thing but in different terms. Churches teach it as repenting to god...and but WITH stong faith. Wiccans teach it with intentions. Birthday children are taugh it with Birthday Wishes.
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chithappens
does anyone else feel like explaining that one person is made up of many living oragnisms?
i'm too lazy to go through all that
Well yeah, I get that. But how is a computer virus any more or less alive than it's host organism?
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Apr 24th, 2008 10:26 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chithappens
does anyone else feel like explaining that one person is made up of many living oragnisms?
i'm too lazy to go through all that
And the point is?
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Apr 24th, 2008 10:30 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chithappens
does anyone else feel like explaining that one person is made up of many living oragnisms?
i'm too lazy to go through all that
You're too lazy to says "cells"? You must be black.
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Apr 24th, 2008 10:32 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by DigiMark007
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How the hell did you think of that
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Apr 24th, 2008 10:35 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Da Pittman
How the hell did you think of that
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Da Pittman
That is only one type there is many self learning programs that will alter their own code such as creating new rules and code in response to a changing environment without any interaction from a user. You have computer viruses that have built in anti-virus programming that will attack other virus that infect your computer. You have some that when attempting to delete the will duplicate and write their code to try and prevent further deletion, this is in direct response to a threat.
That's response to stimuli. It was all coded from the start, they are not improving or changing their operation in any way.
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Apr 24th, 2008 11:06 PM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chithappens
does anyone else feel like explaining that one person is made up of many living oragnisms?
i'm too lazy to go through all that
They are living but they are not organisms. Cells are not organisms unless it is a single celled organism. Organism refers to the being as a whole.
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Apr 24th, 2008 11:07 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
That's response to stimuli. It was all coded from the start, they are not improving or changing their operation in any way.
How is this any different then a cell?
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Apr 24th, 2008 11:10 PM
chithappens
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
They are living but they are not organisms. Cells are not organisms unless it is a single celled organism. Organism refers to the being as a whole.
So were you previously arguing that a virus is more "alive" than a cell?
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Deja~vu
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As of yet not a synthetic electronically one.
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Apr 24th, 2008 11:39 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chithappens
So were you previously arguing that a virus is more "alive" than a cell?
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Apr 25th, 2008 01:19 AM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chithappens
So were you previously arguing that a virus is more "alive" than a cell?
I never said anything of the sort. Cells are alive but they are not organisms. My heart may be part of me but it is not a human.
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Apr 25th, 2008 02:12 AM
Da Pittman
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
I never said anything of the sort. Cells are alive but they are not organisms. My heart may be part of me but it is not a human.
So how is a computer virus different from a cell?
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Apr 25th, 2008 03:13 AM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Da Pittman
So how is a computer virus different from a cell?
its virtual for one
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Apr 25th, 2008 03:13 AM
King Kandy
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Da Pittman
So how is a computer virus different from a cell?
A computer virus doesn't fit the definition of life. A cell is living but it is not an organism.
Here's an analogy. My heart is a human heart. It is not a human. Even if there were floating sentient heart beings, my heat would still not be human.
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Apr 25th, 2008 03:17 AM
Da Pittman
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by chickenlover98
its virtual for one
By the definition that he wants to use it fits 4 (one in debate) of the 7 criteria of life.
Lets look at a cell in the same list.
Homeostasis: No
Organization: No
Metabolism: Yes
Growth: Not really
Adaptation: No
Response to stimuli: Yes and No
Reproduction: Yes
quote: (post ) Originally posted by King Kandy
A computer virus doesn't fit the definition of life. A cell is living but it is not an organism.
Here's an analogy. My heart is a human heart. It is not a human. Even if there were floating sentient heart beings, my heat would still not be human.
I have no idea where you are going with that analogy and it doesn't fit into the topic.
Well I'm off to bed, if you respond I will read it in the morning.
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