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Avlon
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"Doomsday claws would put holes in thanos quickly if wolverine can stab through him"

That would be double bad writting.

Doomsday in the first figth wasent using Flash like speeds. Neither Superman.

Stronger than Byrne Superman? Yeah.


So its bad writing if thanos isnt indestructable?


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"Doomsday claws would put holes in thanos quickly if wolverine can stab through him"

That would be double bad writting.

Doomsday in the first figth wasent using Flash like speeds. Neither Superman.

Stronger than Byrne Superman? Yeah.

In Death of Superman GL said "He moves faster than the speed of light", when Darksied speedblitzed him and smashed his head on a rock. [To do that to a GL requires a LOT of speed.]

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"You get a cookie for trying hard...
Where did I say adamantium was stronger than power cosmic?
What does that even have to do with adamantium being able to pierce thanos?"

He was using something called the IG. For a start. It was simply bad writting.

Or lets say one more jobbing moment for Wolverine.

Even without IG i fail to see how Logan would stab him considering Thanos without a plot device took shots from Odin.


Incosistent writing, PIS... how many all powerful characters lose because of it?
Thanos, Beyonder, Onslaught, Solaris, Maggedon, Parallax..etc etc.

At the time when he used the IG, he was only tapping into the Power gem. Everything else was pure thanos.


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"So its bad writing if thanos isnt indestructable?"

Lets put it this way. On an average showing he took blasts from Tyrant and Odin. Even he was not close to win against either.

That alone makes already him more durable than the claws.

In the infinite gauntlet case. He was powered up with the IG. And yet was stabbed. So yes it was a jobbing moment.

"In Death of Superman GL said "He moves faster than the speed of light", when Darksied speedblitzed him and smashed his head on a rock. [To do that to a GL requires a LOT of speed.]"

Green Lantern wasent in " Death of Superman ".

Where was it stated that Thanos was only using the power gem in the fight?

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Yea Thanos being cut by Wolverine, adamantium or not, is incredibly inconsistent. Thanos isnt evenpunctured by Odin's spear yet wolverine with his 800lbs strength succeeds?


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Originally posted by olympian
"So its bad writing if thanos isnt indestructable?"

Lets put it this way. On an average showing he took blasts from Tyrant and Odin. Even he was not close to win against either.

That alone makes already him more durable than the claws.

In the infinite gauntlet case. He was powered up with the IG. And yet was stabbed. So yes it was a jobbing moment.

"In Death of Superman GL said "He moves faster than the speed of light", when Darksied speedblitzed him and smashed his head on a rock. [To do that to a GL requires a LOT of speed.]"

Green Lantern wasent in " Death of Superman ".

Where was it stated that Thanos was only using the power gem in the fight?


Before they begin the battle. To make it fair, Thanos turns off all the other gems and calculate .05% chance of victory for the heroes.

As for being cut...Thanos does wield cosmic energy... so energy blasts should not have too much effect on him. Cosmics blast each other all the time. Physical force seems to affect them differently though.

Leo has also shown proof that Thanos wasnt doing well against tyrant before thanos started using a plot device.


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before he used tyrant's own power against tyrant, tyrant was demolishing thanos. wasn't even close. most heroes can stand cosmic blasts without being cut or bleeding. i'm not defending wolvie that's for damn sure, rather supporting av's idea that energy blasts have different effects then cutting weapons (ie claws, black knight's sword). they pretty much HAVE to be shown to have different effects for them to be effective.


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"Before they begin the battle. To make it fair, Thanos turns off all the other gems and calculate .05% chance of victory for the heroes"

The issue i have its translated. The idea i got was that rather than turning off any gems or just some, he lowered the overall powerlevel to one where the heroes could get those kind of chances.

I could be wrong on this, since i have it translated tho.

"before he used tyrant's own power against tyrant, tyrant was demolishing thanos. wasn't even close. most heroes can stand cosmic blasts without being cut or bleeding. i'm not defending wolvie that's for damn sure, rather supporting av's idea that energy blasts have different effects then cutting weapons (ie claws, black knight's sword). they pretty much HAVE to be shown to have different effects for them to be effective."

I actually can see the point of view. I just feel its heavy inconsistant having someone wielding such power cosmic and getting stabbed by...earthmade claws. Against Tyrant, losing its logical even in comics porpuses but that, its difficult to take it serious. Even at Marvel.

Ill rather called it higly inconsistent then.

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Originally posted by olympian
"Before they begin the battle. To make it fair, Thanos turns off all the other gems and calculate .05% chance of victory for the heroes"

The issue i have its translated. The idea i got was that rather than turning off any gems or just some, he lowered the overall powerlevel to one where the heroes could get those kind of chances.

I could be wrong on this, since i have it translated tho.

"before he used tyrant's own power against tyrant, tyrant was demolishing thanos. wasn't even close. most heroes can stand cosmic blasts without being cut or bleeding. i'm not defending wolvie that's for damn sure, rather supporting av's idea that energy blasts have different effects then cutting weapons (ie claws, black knight's sword). they pretty much HAVE to be shown to have different effects for them to be effective."

I actually can see the point of view. I just feel its heavy inconsistant having someone wielding such power cosmic and getting stabbed by...earthmade claws. Against Tyrant, losing its logical even in comics porpuses but that, its difficult to take it serious. Even at Marvel.

Ill rather called it higly inconsistent then.


No more inconsistent than this... Supes survives this while fighting doomsday without being KO... but keep him and Batman as equals.

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Could someone explain his one? Maybe Thanos is not quite as invincible as you all reckon

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"No more inconsistent than this... Supes survives this while fighting doomsday without being KO... but keep him and Batman as equals"

Him and Batman as equals of what..............?

"Could someone explain his one? Maybe Thanos is not quite as invincible as you all reckon"

I dont see the problem with that one, Thanos wasent killed was he. He was shown to be alive in the end of that series. After he got the power up by Death, hes pretty much immortal.

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Originally posted by olympian
"No more inconsistent than this... Supes survives this while fighting doomsday without being KO... but keep him and Batman as equals"

Him and Batman as equals of what..............?

"Could someone explain his one? Maybe Thanos is not quite as invincible as you all reckon"

I dont see the problem with that one, Thanos wasent killed was he. He was shown to be alive in the end of that series. After he got the power up by Death, hes pretty much immortal.


True but before this he does admit he could have been killed by a Nuke. Is this the same story where he is 'beating up' several Marvel characters ? Lol

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I take statements that are proven wrong on panel, with bad taste.

Tecnically since we know he survived, his doubt of if he would or not gets kind of mooth.

And yes it was stick out tongue

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Originally posted by olympian
"No more inconsistent than this... Supes survives this while fighting doomsday without being KO... but keep him and Batman as equals"

Him and Batman as equals of what..............?

"Could someone explain his one? Maybe Thanos is not quite as invincible as you all reckon"

I dont see the problem with that one, Thanos wasent killed was he. He was shown to be alive in the end of that series. After he got the power up by Death, hes pretty much immortal.


Equals in the sense that they make it so Bats can virtually beat anyone.


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True but before this he does admit he could have been killed by a Nuke. Is this the same story where he is 'beating up' several Marvel characters ? Lol


In his panels.. I've seen thanos hold back people...but I havent seen him give Doomsday style beatdowns to whole groups.


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In his panels.. I've seen thanos hold back people...but I havent seen him give Doomsday style beatdowns to whole groups.


You mean the kind of beatings Hulk has given the Avengers? The kind of beatings Nefaria has dished out on the Thunderbolts and Avengers?


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Originally posted by olympian
I take statements that are proven wrong on panel, with bad taste.

Tecnically since we know he survived, his doubt of if he would or not gets kind of mooth.

And yes it was stick out tongue


He seems pretty certain to me. laughing

Doesn't this mean that a full on assualt by Thing, Hulk, Thor and Herc is not = to a nuke. Lol Oh welll wink

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"Equals in the sense that they make it so Bats can virtually beat anyone"

Ah yes the Bat God. I rather take the most common approach that he is a phsycho and a human and move on.

"He seems pretty certain to me"

The dummie was wrong then.

"Doesn't this mean that a full on assualt by Thing, Hulk, Thor and Herc is not = to a nuke. Lol Oh welll "

Just for that he should had been beaten stick out tongue

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Originally posted by olympian
"Equals in the sense that they make it so Bats can virtually beat anyone"

Ah yes the Bat God. I rather take the most common approach that he is a phycho and a human and move on.

"He seems pretty certain to me"

The dummie was wrong then.

"Doesn't this mean that a full on assualt by Thing, Hulk, Thor and Herc is not = to a nuke. Lol Oh welll "

Just for that he should had been beaten stick out tongue


Lol. I cant beleive Armando is leaving mann. He was a sound guy heh?

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For the times i debated with him he sure seemed like. Was he around already for a long time?

Btw man theres more stuff at the thread, check it out.

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