I know you're not new here; most likely you've been here longer than I have. But...do you know what this board is for? Arguing which fictional character would beat the other is sort of the point. And, as a matter of course, it is serious business.
This is what feats are for. WHY do you think the Lich King beats Samus? What can he do that makes you think he would win?
For instance, I know that Arthas has reacted to an arrow fired by Sylvanus, which was estimated to be around supersonic speed. That's proof of his speed.
Samus, on the other hand, has outrun blaster fire. That's proof of her speed. Based on that, I can say that there's proof that Samus is faster than the Lich King.
That isn't how it works. You'd have to prove that the balloons that the Balloon Fighter pops are unusually durable. Otherwise, they're assumed to be normal balloons. And you'd also have to give examples of things that Selpie's attack has killed.
Actually there is. You analyze the feats of both VGs character and the one with the greatest wins. otherwise its just rp with everyone playing the same character. they support.
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Nah, they're not normal balloons... They're balloons far stronger than anything ever created.
Only the POWER of Balloon Fight Mans foot.... And the Power of the ememies feet.... and the spikes are strong enough to take them down.
Selphie's attack kills pretty much everything in FFVIII in a single hit... But everything in FFVIII is much, much, much weaker than the balloons in Balloon Fight.
Are you catching my drift... There is no way you can prove me wrong on thee points.
That is my point, these aren't debates. They can be fun... But at no point should anyone claim fact when talking about cross-game battles. It stinks of VG arrogance which these forums can do without.
If you wanted an RP did make a thread of it. but here feats of the charcters are still use here. The rule even suggest that. Debates can be fun in there one right and sort of acts like a trivia game/ chess game to determine who can get the other in check.
edit you still have to prove the balloon is durable with feats other wise you making it up. and I can simply argue that the balloon is weaker than normal balloons. and you still have to counter that with proof.
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At the same time I could ask you to prove that Selphie's The End is stronger than a balloon. At no point in Final Fantasy VIII do you fight anything real, let alone a balloon.
I can argue that The End does damage because it hurts the oppenont. While they may never encounter a balloon they are obvious stronger than it base on what they faced and the fact an average human can bust one.
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Look the reason I'm complaining is because I said that I thought that a lvl 80 WoW character could beat Samus and all I got in return was an ******* "no" response from an arrogant so-and-so who thinks that he is actually right. When in fact no one is.
Yeah, I can't prove you wrong...only because you have failed to prove yourself right. You claimed that the balloons were strong and asked me to prove you wrong, which is not how debates work, and it's a fallacy, or failure of logic. The burden of proof is on you to back up your claims with evidence.
Until you prove that the balloons are durable, they are simply normal balloons, as they have not shown any attributes to differentiate them from normal balloons. You are the one failing to provide facts. You cannot claim the balloons are not normal balloons without evidence to the contrary.
Given that Selphie's spell kills powerful monsters in one hit, it is proven to be stronger than the Balloon Fighter's kick.
I think what you're doing is trying to claim that since none of these take place in the real world there is no way to compare two separate universes. You would be right, except that we compare them to the real world.
So when we see Alex Mercer throw a car in his world, it is assumed to be equal in weight to a car in our universe. Sure it could easily weigh about ten pounds somehow, but there is no reason to assume so.
It's pretty obvious we don't use this point of view.
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But it's not wrong to use this point of view (or wrong for you to have yours)... That's what really is up for debate.
I'm not saying you can't disagree with me when I say that "I believe a lvl 80 WoW character could take Samus".. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't be a dickhead (and I don't even think it was you) and say "No". As if it's point of fact.
I wasn't being arrogant, and what I stated was facts. WoW player have no feats to suggest they can even take one Samus Aran who has feats to suggest she can wipe WoW clean.
Average creatures that breath fire. guess what happens to balloons when heated? Apparently the fact I disagree with you upseted you based on your remarks
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Yet you also failed to provide any reasons why any character could defeat Samus. I disagreed, which apparently upset you. I was still arguing against the Lich King, so I saw no need to argue against a weaker character.
It is possible to right in this instance, and just because you're making things up doesn't mean I'm wrong here. The fact is that you are not providing any evidence for your outlandish claims. Yes, assumptions are made on certain things, such as balloons that don't show any differences from normal balloons being assumed to be normal balloons. What makes you think they aren't?
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But you're getting the player involved here. A level 80 character on WoW has shit loads of feats. (I stopped playing before Lich King so I don't know what exactly but I know my level 55 Mage had a decent arsenal)
No, it's not wrong. But if everyone used your point of view this forum would not exist because you would be right and we could not actually prove anything.
But since we don't we can know that Super Sonic is faster than light, Kratos is one strong son of a *****, and that Yoshi should play baseball.
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