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Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Then just let me explain why I think it's an unfair advantage.

3 lifetimes> 1 lifetime. Compiling everything he does in those lifetimes makes it unbalanced compared to characters with only 1 lifetime.


Agreed. And you can faff about with nonsense like 'spiritual lifetimes' all you want; it doesn't change the fact that they are multiple lifetimes and you even admitted as such, and only tried to backpedal once you were told your pet character doesn't qualify.


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But what's so different about that then say, a character who lives three times the length of another character, or a character who's explored with three times the content? Or someone like Mario who isn't depicted as realistically aging at all, for all intents and purposes. Especially considering the added length of time and content of the added lifetimes didn't directly contribute to the ultimate achievement the character finds.


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But what's so different about that then say, a character who lives three times the length of another character, or a character who's explored with three times the content? Or someone like Mario who isn't depicted as realistically aging at all, for all intents and purposes. Especially considering the added length of time and content of the added lifetimes didn't directly contribute to the ultimate achievement the character finds.


Because regardless of how long a person lives, it's still only 1 lifetime and achieving something truly great in that one lifetime is what counts as a lifetime achievement.

Since Abel came to terms with his problems because of the multiple lives he has lived through, they do directly contribute.

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Indirectly, I'd say. Still, I maintain that his one spiritual lifetime is what defines him as a character, not his multiple physical lifetimes. Perhaps we could get some feedback from the TC?


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Indirectly, I'd say. Still, I maintain that his one spiritual lifetime is what defines him as a character, not his multiple physical lifetimes. Perhaps we could get some feedback from the TC?


Around for 15 years knocks Abel out of the competition anyway. Based on how the TC intended for the thread to be created, it would be Mario. Link doesn't count since he has more than one lifetime and Samus has not left as much an impact on gaming as Mario. No one has.

But, it seems like we're not really paying attention to that. There shouldn't be anyone here that refuses to acknowledge just how much the classics affected gaming in general. It seems the common poster is just opening it up to a broader collection of characters so to stimulate more discussion.

Then again, I am no one special so I have no claim as to what anyone is doing. Just my own observations.

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Let's try this again. Only several people have gotten the gist of what the L.A Award stands for. It's not about how many game systems the character has been on, but rather their legacy and their contributions to videogames in general, which is why I stuck in that 15-year stipulation. It was originally going to be 20, but I relented. The Lifetime Acievement Award are for characters you grew up with. You watched them evolve over the years, experienced their victories and losses, seen how they came to be.


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So not really the characters and what they do in their lifetimes gets the award. Basically who did you grow up with.

Mario, Sonic, Link, Samus, basically old school guys and gals.

I nominate Pac-Man because **** everyone else.


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That's all I needed to know. Multiple lifetimes disqualify him I think, since he has more than one lifetime for achievements.

Going by those guidelines, it's Mario with ease.


What? No. erm

Thats like saying Mario is at an unfair advantage because he has about a billion games so lets just disqualify him! He's the same character in essence so he counts. Just like Planescape's Nameless One.

Beside's, its not your thread, so you can't disqualify him. ;p


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What? No. erm

Thats like saying Mario is at an unfair advantage because he has about a billion games so lets just disqualify him! He's the same character in essence so he counts. Just like Planescape's Nameless One.

Beside's, its not your thread, so you can't disqualify him. ;p


Mario is never stated to be in a different lifetime in his billion games. I've always been under the impression that Mario has just lived an interesting long life.

The TC has already disqualified Abel so what I say doesn't matter. Still doesn't change the fact that having more than 1 lifetime is an unfair advantage and spiritual lifetime or not, it seems unfair in my opinion. And I don't think I'm alone in believing that.

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Let's try this again. Only several people have gotten the gist of what the L.A Award stands for. It's not about how many game systems the character has been on, but rather their legacy and their contributions to videogames in general, which is why I stuck in that 15-year stipulation. It was originally going to be 20, but I relented. The Lifetime Acievement Award are for characters you grew up with. You watched them evolve over the years, experienced their victories and losses, seen how they came to be.


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For the action genre. Who should take the award in the fighting genre?


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Ryu. Obviously.

You don't become an archetype for nothing.


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Ryu. Obviously.

You don't become an archetype for nothing.


Why have one when you can have 3? As stated in the opening, Ryu, Ken and Chun-li deserve the award.


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Chun-Li I would agree with.

Ken... Eh. I suppose he helped set the standard for the rivalries in fighting games, but meh...


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Chun-Li I would agree with.

Ken... Eh. I suppose he helped set the standard for the rivalries in fighting games, but meh...


Ryu: (from the UDON comic, in regards to Ken) I taught him to slow down his manic style and rein in his exuberant flash when necessary...while he taught me to look beyond the strict teachings we have learned and build upon them by exerting my creativity.

That and Ken is the first halvsie (person who is part Japanese) fighter in fighting games.


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