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My point is, I never debate with them fighting out of character.



you dont embellish feats?


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I don't believe in CBR style of fighting...I go by on panel showings. I don't mentally create a character that doesn't exist. I don't say Hulk would come into a fight moving at the same type of super speed he used to blitz both Wonderman and Ironman before they could react because on panel, its rare to find Hulk fighting like that.

I don't say Savage Hulk goes around Thunder Clapping in all of his battles, thunder Clapping hard enough that he destroys the solar system they are fighting in (classic Savage destroyed a dimension twice on panel). It's stupid imo and its out of character. I was being sarcastic with you that day and I would never debate in that fashion.

Weren't you the one that gave Surfer 10/10 against Superman?

Anyways, nothing Superman Prime or below is stopping Hulk.


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My point is, I never debate with them fighting out of character.




thanks for that.


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thanks for that.



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What was that for? You know its true.


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confused

What was that for? You know its true.


Except that it isn't. Let's take your Superman for example.

Can lift what, 150,000 tonnes?
Can only react at the speed of sound?
Can only run at 2000 miles per second?
Can be hurt by Cyclops or Colossus?

You made THAT up, so it's a start.


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Except that it isn't. Let's take your Superman for example.

Can lift what, 150,000 tones?
Can only react at the speed of sound?
Can only run at 2000 miles per second?
Can be hurt by Cyclops or Colossus?

You made THAT up, so it's a start.


I never said that he can lift "only" 150k. I posted a bio that stated he can lift 150k+. No cap basically.

Never said that he can react only at the speed of sound. 2000 MPs+ is faster than the speed of sound and his bio also stated he is 2000 MPs +...this wasn't something I made up. I posted it for you to see it.

I never said that he can be hurt by Colossus but what I did say is no Herald is going to sit there and no sell a punch from Colossus.


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hi pr!!


umm, hey?

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I never said that he can lift "only" 150k. I posted a bio that stated he can lift 150k+. No cap basically.

Never said that he can react only at the speed of sound. 2000 MPs+ is faster than the speed of sound and his bio also stated he is 2000 MPs +...this wasn't something I made up. I posted it for you to see it.

I never said that he can be hurt by Colossus but what I did say is no Herald is going to sit there and no sell a punch from Colossus.


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You're lying right now. You do know that, don't you?

Also, non-canon bio.


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umm, hey?



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You're lying right now. You do know that, don't you?

Also, non-canon bio.


Uh- Uh. Nope. Nothing but the truth.


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Uh- Uh. Nope. Nothing but the truth.


Based on what? I've been in threads where you claimed, based on "feats", that speed of sound was his limit. you claimed cyclops could hurt him. you posted a non-canon bio as proof.

All of these things happened, no matter how much you deny them.


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Based on what? I've been in threads where you claimed, based on "feats", that speed of sound was his limit. you claimed cyclops could hurt him. you posted a non-canon bio as proof.

All of these things happened, no matter how much you deny them.


I can't remember that Pr.


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I can't remember that Pr.


Some of your gems:

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Can you do me a favor, show me that scan of Black adam, Superman, or Wonder woman fighting at light speed. No, I can do better than that, show me a scan of superman fighting BEYOND the speed of sound.

I'll be waiting.


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Didnt read what confused It was never stated that flash came out of the portal going light speed. He achieved light speed at the moment darkseid attacked him. Again darkseid seen flash along with supes so you are basically saying that darkseid reflexes and site is also at the speed of light. Now if you agree with this then why didnt darkseid guard himself against a blitz coming from that same flash going light speed. sad

Superman cant achieve light speed ANYWHERE. All of his light speed showings are in space. Hell, his last light speed showing the author made it plain and clear that he could only do it in space.

I understand that he couldnt see far but I could have sworn that supes stated that earth atmosphere takes a toll on his powers, I could be wrong but the atmosphere affecting his powers, thats pretty much plain and clear. Only fans scream out that supes can fight at light speed when the only true showing of his max speed during combat was that of the speed of sound (when he was creating sonic booms with his punches). Now if anyone can show me a feat surpassing that I would love to see it.

How about you post a scan of superman strength feat and I'll post one. Hell if you want, I'll post the first scan and I would love for you to match it and I'm not talking about classic feats, I want us to use up to date strength feats.


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During final crisis darkseid also seen flash, does that mean he can react and think at light speed. Both seen flash come out of a portal, then flash took off.

I agree, he blitzed bizarro AND doomsday but how fast are they, doomsday clones has been tagged and killed by batman with an ax, doomsday speed is a mystery also and is very overrated.

I never said that superman speed is the speed of sound, his flight speed is amazing but again his combat speed is the mystery, not his flight speed.

Cyke blast is like being hit by a 100 tonner continuously, you're basically saying that supes could stand there and take a blast that the juggernaut and WWH even felt, thats crazy.


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Thought at light speed confused when did this happen and reacted at light speed, when did this happen also? Superman fighting speed is a mystery.

Naah, I dont think superman will tank a blast at full force from cyke. The juggernaut felt a full force blast from cyke, I know for a fact superman would be hurt from it.


You kept asking for feats faster than the speed of sound, and when you were shown them, you discarded them or just "forgot" about them.


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You kept asking for feats faster than the speed of sound, and when you were shown them, you discarded them or just "forgot" about them.


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Superman's pinky can defeat current Hulk.


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Some of your gems:


Love how you just have those sitting around waiting for the opportunity to use them laughing


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I don't know why he save those quotes...that was like 4 to 5 yrs ago.


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Love how you just have those sitting around waiting for the opportunity to use them laughing


the sad thing is, i didn't. i literally put "superman speed sound" in to the search bar, and got 200 pages worth of results. that's actually easier than making the effort to save them.

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I don't know why he save those quotes...that was like 4 to 5 yrs ago.


Nope.


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